Originally Posted by Wameyn (Post 184539)

Was the split around the same time AF got its makeover? I remember people were not happy about that at all. I think the few of us who were with AF at the end can definitely understand your feelings from when you split. We didn't publicly speak about it on AF but behind closed doors many of us were unhappy with how things were being handled.

I loved the people and it truly was my home on the web so I never wanted to permanently leave but hey that choice was made for us. ;) I do regret that my original Avatar home is gone, however when the owners only interactions with members is to donate and to post new threads about random movies to generate hits then well perhaps it was time. I would love to see AF in the hands of a passionate Avatar loving owner but I really don't see that happening for the price that's being asked. :hmm:

Originally Posted by Ja'k Dawsiin (Post 184595)

it is possible to have an AF-themed 'room' here on ToS? sort of like a man-cave to remember the good times and memories.

Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 184500)

Chances are it just wasn't profitable - very, very few forums are. That's why ones that survive in the long term are often either connected to a larger site, or run for a different motive than money.

A lot of people here found their first home at AF, and will be sad to see it go. The worst part is the loss of so much early history of the Avatar community - we have archive.org but their snapshots are often incomplete. Either way, once I have a bit of spare time I will look into trying to scrape as consistent a mirror as I can and give it a permanent home on ToS.

Originally Posted by Ja'k Dawsiin (Post 184595)

it is possible to have an AF-themed 'room' here on ToS? sort of like a man-cave to remember the good times and memories.

Originally Posted by Crickett (Post 184526)

I just want to mention something to people coming here from A-F who weren't originals there.

This site was modeled after how Avatar-forums ORIGINALLY looked.

Originally Posted by Eltu (Post 184533)

Mostly correct! Me and HNM (along with a few others) were not in any special positions on AF whatsoever, other than very dedicated members :)

But indeed, ToS originated as a result of dissatisfaction among the at-the-time AF userbase, though the disagreements themselves we have long left behind. Honestly, looking back at the entire split there were definitely unjustified actions on the behalf of both communities, but it hardly matters today - and it did result in two distinctly different and in their own way great forums.

Even though I may disagree with Lon's way to run a community, the actual people of AF have always been amazing :)

Originally Posted by Eltu (Post 184533)

Mostly correct! Me and HNM (along with a few others) were not in any special positions on AF whatsoever, other than very dedicated members :)

But indeed, ToS originated as a result of dissatisfaction among the at-the-time AF userbase, though the disagreements themselves we have long left behind. Honestly, looking back at the entire split there were definitely unjustified actions on the behalf of both communities, but it hardly matters today - and it did result in two distinctly different and in their own way great forums.

Even though I may disagree with Lon's way to run a community, the actual people of AF have always been amazing :)

Originally Posted by Ja'k Dawsiin (Post 184595)

it is possible to have an AF-themed 'room' here on ToS? sort of like a man-cave to remember the good times and memories.

Originally Posted by Eltu (Post 184596)

Sure it is! It's known as all of ToS! :)

I'd say ToS is about as AF-themed as it gets, especially in its inception. If you're looking for something a bit more specific, feel free to make threads on any AF-related subject you'd want (including just "General AF thread" if you'd so wish) - it's probably the best way to go about doing things :)

And of course, to the people who were around AF in 2010, ToS is almost a literal replica as far as the feel goes :D

Originally Posted by zongtseng (Post 184632)

I still clearly remember the split, and it wasn't fun. It was mostly the redesign, which is why we made ToS to replicate the original AF, and it still looks identical to this day, 5+ years later. It's very sad to see AF gone nonetheless, because I basically lived there until the split.

I had a VB3 license and webhosting, so I installed it, found the theme AF had originally used, and instant AF :) I doubt any of us expected it to work so well, or to still be around in August of 2015. I've been an absentee admin for years now, but it's nice to see it still going.

BTW, hi :)