I found a pretty good, vlog of the park. (the vlogs like a solid 40 minutes)

[SPOILER ALERT] - he shows quite a lot of the park incase you wanted to keep it as a suprise....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GA63tGS6Is

I won't be able to go until next summer, but I'm beyond excited! :D I'm already making my shopping list and have already warned my friends that they may have to knock me out because there's no way I'll want to leave. :love2:

Well I have my "shuttle" booked to Pandora :D

First, welcome to ToS, Cosmic! Hope you like it here. :hi:

Irayo nitxan for the "Shop Disney Parks" app info! And btw, I'm also a big Disney fan....I was a "Disney-first" fan long before I became an Avatar fan in 2010. So having Pandora The World of Avatar be a part of the DisneyWorld parks is like the best of both worlds for me! :D

And Neyfan -- Irayo for posting that photo of Zoe standing next to the Neytiri bust -- it's Txantsan!

You're welcome CyanRachel. :) There's more like that of her and Ney, and the cast at Disney. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/...5674516633.jpg

so far i've been unable to acquire a hoodie, as it's not available for order through disney's online store

BUT i have found a blog post with a BUTT TON of pictures of all the merchandise, including SO MANY PLUSHIES I WANT THEM.
now i want a banshee plushie it'd look so cute next to my faerie dragon plushie

Have any of you seen this?

A short video of the animatronics behind the Na'vi at the park.

Damn! Look at the queues at the park :shock: :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtS82lWU8bk

(skip to 1:47 if lazy)

"Disney and Lightstorm decided to set the land's timeline a generation after the warring conflict between the indigenous Na'vi and the Resources Development Administration (RDA) that sought to exploit Pandora for its unobtanium in the first film. According to the backstory, the Na'vi and humans have achieved peace and Alpha Centauri Expeditions (ACE)–a fictional tourism company–has partnered with the Na'vi to present Pandora as a new destination for ecotourism and scientific research."

Did they just spoil the ending to the entire trilogy or whatever? lol

No. This is approximately 100 years after everything in the films is already over.

About the outcome itself? Inevitability.

i don't understand how a bunch of skypeople eco-tourists is a viable solution with the Na'vi and Pandora, even a 100 years after a lasting end to hostilities. has no one learned the lessons of Mount Everest and it's 65 tons of TRASH left by climbing tourists? and that's just Everest itself, there are climbers on all the accessible mountains of the Himilayas range and the high-altitude areas of Nepal, are covered with trash too. disgusting. two-legged human roaches ALWAYS bring trash and leave it.


i want skypeople off Pandora forever. we have no business in paradise at all. we don't coexist. period.

I think the point is that hopefully humanity will learn its lesson and be able to co-exist and become better people( in the case of this universe, with the help of the people) and Disney had to "find" a way so that people can come visit Pandora, so I will admit it's not perfect, but I am glad there is a way for people to "visit" pandora if they want to. I know that sadly it seems that right now though, humanity may never learn its lessons until its too late, but we have to keep trying. I'm excited to get to support Avatar/pandora here in a few weeks :) So'ha!

Indeed. See also the Reddit thread about people throwing coins into bodies of water and my comment that it would continue to be an issue in real life.

On the flip side in the postwar canon - ACE controls the sole means of transport to Pandora for purposes of tourism which would clamp down much of the potential impact, and the vast majority of the tourism and thus the litter issue is limited to the confines of the valley of Mo'ara where ACE staff keep it under control. Well; outside of banshee tours, and everyone drives avatars in that case and never has a chance to carry trash any farther than a link room.

As to the idea of the human presence or the PRF/PCI/ACE bloc itself being so inevitably deleterious, these entities are mainly the work of skypeople who can See, are they not. PCI in particular exists solely to conduct remediation projects and clean up RDA impact sites, and all operate with local clans' approval and oversight. They might not be total zero-impact presences on Pandora, but their impact cannot be anything worse than the alternative of leaving RDA's toxic legacy unmitigated. Given that humans created that impact and thus best know what hazards, substances, etc. are involved and how to mitigate them, it is their duty to clean it up.

Wow, talk about xenophobic. lol

wow, clearly your cup is full. smh.

^Srane, this. :)

okay, i can live with the idea of skypeople filling in the strip-mining holes, hauling out rusted equipment from the pits, cleaning up all the oil, used batteries, engine parts, broken tread links, expended and blown-up secops equipment, downed helicopters and wrecked dropships, and hopefully helping to replant all the vegetation and forest clearcutted for the ore removals. i would also like to see the hellsgate complex and refineries demolished, and the land returned to the forest. then they all go home and work that ethic on Mother Nature here. it's a start.

the everest analogy is actually rly spot on lmao. both everest and pandora are places that will literally kill humans just for being there, and yet people still want to go there and brag to their friends about it.

also does that 65 tonnes include the bodies of climbers who died because that is also definitely a thing on everest and k2

On the flip flip side, that opens up potential "future" plot hooks. Classic cyberpunk is full of competing corporations and from what we see of Earth in Avatar it's full classic Cyberpunk. I can easily imagine some other corporation going in on space exploration against ACE or even attacking them on a financial level and acquiring the entire operation. From there the plot basically writes itself, especially if the whole "tourist" aspect is played up. Just imagine a corporation taking full advantage of Pandora and turning it into well...a Disney park (with mining operation on the side). The potential for both satire and criticism of things like cultural appropriation, Indian reservations, and commodification of descent/nature is high.

Throw in one of Jake's grandkids, a human female protagonist, and you've got a solid movie 4/5 soft-sequel-reboot going.

Sounds like a great start for a fanfic, but i am quite sure nothing of the sort is ever happening canonically. The Disney-relevant canon from what I can tell is meant as the endstate for the films to leave the universe in. I agree 100% with it myself, that is the most proper and "most Avatar" resolution. Dystopian futurism is frankly a dime a dozen, doesn't jive with the messages and the impacts of Avatar unless it appears as a transient challenger to be soundly defeated or destroyed, and we're probably already going to get enough attempts at darkness returning to Pandora in the next 4 Avatar films.

The constant stream of people throwing coins into a pit basically everywhere on the Ride of Passage queue doesn't fill me with a great deal of hope.

Someone slipped coins into the biolab. Just..... why?

https://i.imgur.com/L5nnLwy.jpg

Faysawtute...

Hmm, that's definitely not the kind of luminescence one would expect to see there.

It's actually quite a bit worse than that. That's the main area where people have been dropping coins, but they're everywhere. Outside in the first queue area there is running water so of course people dropped a ton of coins into it. There isn't anywhere to drop coins in the second queue area (the cave), but they're just everywhere in the nature reclaimed RDA base (third queue area) and the last two times I went on the ride, someone had slipped coins under the glass into the biolab. :(

I hope they clean it up and put up some signs to stop dropping coins everywhere.

Considering the continuing talks of Disney wanting to buy out Fox and their promise of endless Star Wars sequels, I can see them milking Avatar for a long time. You don't want to lock yourself into continuity in that sort of business model.

I don't think Disney would interrupt that revenue stream. ;)

Update: The coin pile in the above area has been removed as of 11-19-17.

http://i.imgur.com/2mV3z1J.jpg

Also, coins have been removed from the lab tables. Many coins remain in random places and bodies of water, but this is a start. We should keep posting and calling out this issue and bringing it up to CMs onsite.

I am fairly sure Disney donates coin recoveries to charity. However it's mostly US pennies, so it may as well just be people littering scrap metal around Pandora anyway.

If Disney wants to bankroll endless Avatar, hell yeah as long as it is good and Cameron/Lightstorm continue to drive like they have with Mo'ara. I just don't think it would involve continuing on from the dis canon. It would be counter to the thematic drive of AK and the Pandora venture overall to have the state of affairs seen in the park be threatened. It's not like it is necessary to undermine it to continue Avatar. Just linearly there is still a hundred years of time to play with between the 4 currently existing and in-production sequels and the beginning of the disney canon, and 30+ years of Pandora's discovery and exploration prior to A1 for prequels. Then there are alternate perspectives on events and parallel sequences of events to mess with, maybe in a TV series.

I suspect the Disney canon itself will never be seen in any film (beyond perhaps seeing the valley of Mo'ara in a much earlier state, since we do know that the Omaticaya clan has moved to around there by the ACE era). Disney has been constantly describing the Pandora and Star Wars land projects as intentionally original/unseen places and people but set in the same universes as the films.

As for the coins issue, yea that is extremely sad, but as long as there are some people who see there is still hope, it may be very, very small, but it is still there. So I am glad that they are still trying to send the message of hope and trying to get people to see. but sran, sadly if we are talking about humanity as it stands now it is far far far from where we need to be and if you ask me if we will get to the place where we need to be, or where the message of Avatar wants us to be, I admit I am very doubtful, but that doesn't mean we should stop trying.