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UltraArt 01-15-2011 12:00 PM

Hello I'm new here :).I'm from Serbia and i want to have some new friends from this site....If you want can you help me about meetup.....Please :)....

X.,.Pandora.,.X 01-15-2011 02:12 PM

in a couple of years sounds good, I'll be 18 and my parents couldnt stop me, if i have the $ I'll go anywhere

Mika 01-15-2011 04:37 PM

Ohh I had never noticed this thread before ..

And "hell yeah*

But years ....:shock:

Ummmm no that's way too long ....

Year (or so maybe) ..

Come on lets revive this dream!

Aketuan 01-15-2011 11:25 PM

I'm up for it! As long as it is in the States...

X.,.Pandora.,.X 01-15-2011 11:33 PM

we need a poll to see where the majority of us live, Europe or USA

Human No More 01-16-2011 01:49 AM

Welcome, UltraArt :)

If people want to get this thread going, I'm all for it again - I think the easiest way would be to have two - a UK/europe one and a US one.

SaphirJD 01-16-2011 01:50 AM

well, i would like to join in a meeting for sure, would be so awesome to meet with people from here :)

Empty Glass 01-16-2011 05:55 AM

How about wherever the sequel is premiered for the very first time, we all meet up there and be among the first in the world to see it? Would that place be...London, perhaps? I guess it's still up in the air for a few more years, but it would be nice to have an excuse to go to London again. :)

Of course, you're all welcome to hold a giant meet-up here in California where I live...

Txantsulsam Fyawintxu 01-16-2011 06:07 AM

I would be interested in going. :) California is close to Hawaii... So I think I would be able to go if I wanted to. Although, I would probably need an interpreter LOL and some money to actually buy some food and tickets :xD: Lmao

Aketuan 01-16-2011 06:35 AM

I could do California...I'm only 12 hours away.

Raiden 01-17-2011 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 123585)
Welcome, UltraArt :)

If people want to get this thread going, I'm all for it again - I think the easiest way would be to have two - a UK/europe one and a US one.

If this would be intended for Avatar 2's release, I would love to attend both.

I think the bigger issue here would be to find a place in the U.S. where as many people as possible (so a vote by majority) would be able to make it to, since the U.S. is so huge, and because we have people that are sort of clustered in Alaska/PNW, Southeast, and the Northeast.

Let me know what you think......

Human No More 01-17-2011 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Empty Glass (Post 123664)
How about wherever the sequel is premiered for the very first time, we all meet up there and be among the first in the world to see it? Would that place be...London, perhaps? I guess it's still up in the air for a few more years, but it would be nice to have an excuse to go to London again. :)

Of course, you're all welcome to hold a giant meet-up here in California where I live...

London - I'll be there. Opening night, IMAX. Look for the Na'vi :D

Fkeu'itan 01-17-2011 05:02 PM

I'll be with HNM.

Look for two Na'vi. :D

Empty Glass 01-17-2011 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 123906)
London - I'll be there. Opening night, IMAX. Look for the Na'vi :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fkeu'itan (Post 123946)
I'll be with HNM.

Look for two Na'vi. :D

Thanks, I've already made a mental note for three years from now. :D

Alan 01-17-2011 11:34 PM

Hmm... This is all jolly exciting. *I've just had a quick look through the thread so apologies if I am repeating stuff.

Just some questions and sorry if they sound a little unhelpful but they are to help really.

Ok, what is the purpose of the meet up? Is it to what Avatar 2 when it is released or earlier than that to bring us together? Either would be cool. The reason I ask is this might change where it could be held. If it is for Avatar 2 then the premier will dictate where it is. But if it is sooner then we would have more freedom.

Maybe if it is sooner then a convention type event could be held? Perhaps at a conference centre? Or maybe somewhere that there is a local cinema that could get a copy of Avatar to show over a weekend?

I know of an IMAX cinema in Birmingham (UK) that might be obliging as they showed our forum film (Our Only Home) before Avatar when I arranged a meet up to see Avatar SE. *Six of us made it to the meet up then.

But if we are talking mass meet up, ie convention, I think we need to have some activities. Here's some thoughts:
Costume comp
Costume role play
Swap meet
Avatar related sales stands
Cinema for fan films
Fan fic readings
Fan art gallery
Try and get some members of the cast and crew to come along to answer question and do thautograph thing
Na'vi lessons
Film prop exhibition
Behind the scenes technology demo like performance capture for people to try
Hell, we could see if they could scan our faces to turn us into Na'vi and incorporate us into the film!
Show Avatar, SE, CE
Competition to win Avatar stuff
Environmental related activities, like knowledge sheets to take home to help us change our ways, tree planting sessions
Make the challenge to get to the convention without using a car, ie public transport instead, etc

There is probably more stuff that I can't thing of at the moment. The trick is to make it as accessible to as many people as possible. So it would need to be held somewhere with good transport links as not everyone has a car or can drive.

I definitely think we should invite all Avatar clans to get involved. *Also with something like this and possibly of this size I think we would be looming at getting professional help to organise it and they know how to do these things. *Of course it doesn't have to be this big. It could just be a meet up or something. *Whatever we do we really need a good idea of how many would be interested, how far they would be willing to travel, where they are located, how long the event should be, what time of year would be best and how much they would be willing to pay to attend the event (not including travel or accommodation)

Sorry I kinda went on a bit there and had a bit of a mJor brain dump, but I hope it is useful food for thought. *We just have to do it. The Star Wars and Star Trek fans do it so I'm sure we can! ;)

Thoughts anyone?

Human No More 01-18-2011 12:21 AM

Well, the original idea for this wasn't specifically for Avatar 2 - as for what we have going on, I guess it really depends on the scale of it in terms of location, venue and numbers - if we make it really big and get all the clans involved, we could possibly get even more than that, or it could just be a small(ish) gathering - it really depends on interest.

X.,.Pandora.,.X 01-18-2011 01:25 AM

If we get actualy cast and crew to come (Sam or Zoe would be awesome haha) I would save up now, alot of what Alan said was a very good idea (I would laugh to hard roll playing xD) If we made this into more than a bunch of people metting up (with cast and crew) alot of people might show up...the possiblilities

Raiden 01-18-2011 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by X.,.Pandora.,.X (Post 124060)
If we get actualy cast and crew to come (Sam or Zoe would be awesome haha)

._____.






I would asplode.


I am planning to be able to get to London for this in a few years as well, if all goes as planned.

Alan 01-18-2011 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 124042)
Well, the original idea for this wasn't specifically for Avatar 2 - as for what we have going on, I guess it really depends on the scale of it in terms of location, venue and numbers - if we make it really big and get all the clans involved, we could possibly get even more than that, or it could just be a small(ish) gathering - it really depends on interest.

Well I guess the first place to start is to simply canvas everyone on all the forums. The ones I know of are ToS (of course :)), AF, NaviBlue and Avatar Prime. Are there any others. Next is there a way, as an admin type person, to send everyone a PM or something to direct them to a pole or thread or get them to answer the following questions:
  1. Would they be interested in attending?
  2. How interested are they(scale 1 to 10) if it was in their home country and if it was not?
  3. How far they would be willing to travel: Few miles/km, across their country, to a neighboring country, across the world?
  4. Which country do they live in?
  5. How long do they think the event should be: A day, A weekend, A long weekend, a week?
  6. What time of year would be best?
  7. how much they would be willing to pay to attend the event (not including travel or accommodation)?
  8. What sort of activities would they like to see?
If we were to get the answers to these questions and maybe other good ones that I haven't thought of, the info would help gauge what sort of event it would be. From a small meet up to local meet ups on the same day, to a convention somewhere to multiple conventions on the same day linked up together live!!! Ooops sorry getting ahead of myself there, but once we do know the level of interest then we could take it to the next level to progress it further. But until we know what is needed we are a bit stuck I think.

I will to help polish off the above questions and stuff if we really want to do this. Maybe we need a group setting up if it helps? Duno. Just throwing some ideas out there.

Human No More 01-18-2011 03:54 PM

Learnnavi as well, I'm active there as well :)

That's a great idea - perhaps we could come up with other questions first, I thought of one -
would they be interested in a private screening of Avatar? - they would need to contribute a part of the cost so obviously this would only work if we had enough people

Alan 01-18-2011 10:03 PM

Yeah, sure thing. I think the trick will be to make it a bit like a multiple chose thing with a low number of questions so it is quick and easy to do for everyone.

Is it possible to work out how many collective members there are on all the forums? Then it might be a starting point to see how big the fan base is out their. You could then perhaps assume between 5 and 10% would be able to make it and that would give a rough order of magnitude on how many there might be. Duno just a thought.

Anyway if you want to progress this a little further to sort out some sort of questionnaire then feel free to PM or email me.

Lets see how far we can take it...:rolleyes:

X.,.Pandora.,.X 01-19-2011 01:06 AM

I say we take it all the way

Aketuan 01-19-2011 03:23 AM

Count me in! We should get the ball rolling on this one soon so we can get everything set up.

Human No More 01-19-2011 04:23 PM

I'm happy to do some of the planning for this :D

CyanRachel 01-19-2011 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan (Post 124183)
Yeah, sure thing. I think the trick will be to make it a bit like a multiple chose thing with a low number of questions so it is quick and easy to do for everyone.
Is it possible to work out how many collective members there are on all the forums? Then it might be a starting point to see how big the fan base is out their. You could then perhaps assume between 5 and 10% would be able to make it and that would give a rough order of magnitude on how many there might be. Duno just a thought.
Anyway if you want to progress this a little further to sort out some sort of questionnaire then feel free to PM or email me.
Lets see how far we can take it...:rolleyes:

Wow...all the ideas you listed are great, Alan! And I do think starting with a survey/poll/questionnaire would be good, posting it on multiple Avatar sites. I'm definitely interested in all this, so count me in! :)

Alan 01-20-2011 06:51 AM

Well, I'll see if I can pull together a bit of a questionnaire thingy and I'll post it...or a link to it...here so people can see what they think. Once we're happy with it then perhaps we could post the link onto as many Avatar forums as possible in as many places (as some people just stay in certain threads) and wait for the responses.

I guess the only other way would be to see if the admins of all the forums could be contacted to see if there is a way of PMing everyone with it? Is this possible HNM?

Of course this is just to gauge the level of interest rather than plan anything out yet.

What do people think?

Human No More 01-20-2011 10:59 AM

Yeah, we could contact them - whether or not we'll get an 'offical' reply, I'm not sure, but I'm, sure we can certainly at least go to each forum and post it there, most have some kind of meetups forum.

Alan 01-20-2011 10:14 PM

Kaltxi folks. :hi: Ok, well...I've been doing a little bit of research. Always a good start I guess.:)

I put 'Avatar Convention' into Goolge and came up with a bit of stuff. The first two links got to Naviblue and AF where Avatar conventions have been discussed before about a year ago. Here's the links:

Naviblue thread.

Avatar-Forums thread.

I don't know if anything came of these. There was talk of having a meet up at Comic-con in 2010. But again I don't recall anything or have seen anything about it happening.

So next I checked out the big boys of conventions! What I found out is they they are generally in the region of 4 days, to stretch over a weekend. There are day tickets between US$20 - US$40 and four day tickets between $110 and upto $280!

The Star Trek convention is rather large. You can check it out here> Star Trek Convention

Then there is the Star Wars thingggg> Star War Celebration V

Next up is Comi-con that I believe gets held in San Diego every year. This is where I think the 20 minute Avatar preview was shown in 2009! It is being held again this year in late July > Comi-con 2011

Ok these are established events, but they kinda give you an idea of what goes on at them.

If there was to be an Avatar one I really think it would need to be professionally organised. However, what we could do is try and find out if there is enough interest. Which brings me nicely onto our little questionnaire. I have pulled one together and it can be down loaded by clicking here> Avatar Convention/Meet-Up Questionnaire. Let me know what you think.

If a 'convention' is a bit too much to ask for then there is the 'meet-up' option, where we simple just meet up. But I think if we were to do this we would perhaps get bored and if people were travelling long distances, it would not be worth their will, unless there was something to do.

Soooo...perhaps one possibility would be to meet up at an event. Two spring to mind: Comi-con and the other is the Avatar exhibition on 4th June in Seattle.

My own thoughts? Well a convention would be great, but I don't have the skills or resources to pull that one off! I think that would need to be done professionally. However, a meet-up? Well that is more achieveable. And of course the best place to do that this year would be at the launch of the Avatar Exhibition.

I still think it would be worth trying to organise something for that if possible even if it was just somewhere for us all to meet. If we were going to do this I think we should knock on the door of the Seattle museum to see if they would be will to organise something for us. Especially if we were able to show them some evidence of interest. I mean, that's all I did at the IMAX cinema and we got our forum film shown there with Avatar SE.

Wow. Sorry I've gone on a bit. But please do ponder it and let me know your thoughts. It really would be great for everyone from all the forums to meet up at last and what better place than the opening of an Avatar exhibition!

Oel ngati kameie..I hope on 4th June in Seattle!:hi:

Alan

Human No More 01-22-2011 01:08 AM

Interesting idea, but I think we need a meetup for UK/Europe people as well... not all of us have the time/money to make it to the Avatar exhibit :(

Aketuan 01-22-2011 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan (Post 124482)

My own thoughts? Well a convention would be great, but I don't have the skills or resources to pull that one off! I think that would need to be done professionally. However, a meet-up? Well that is more achieveable. And of course the best place to do that this year would be at the launch of the Avatar Exhibition.

I still think it would be worth trying to organise something for that if possible even if it was just somewhere for us all to meet. If we were going to do this I think we should knock on the door of the Seattle museum to see if they would be will to organise something for us. Especially if we were able to show them some evidence of interest. I mean, that's all I did at the IMAX cinema and we got our forum film shown there with Avatar SE.

Wow. Sorry I've gone on a bit. But please do ponder it and let me know your thoughts. It really would be great for everyone from all the forums to meet up at last and what better place than the opening of an Avatar exhibition!

Oel ngati kameie..I hope on 4th June in Seattle!:hi:

Alan

About the Avatar Exhibit... I love the idea, maybe get them to give us a special tour or entrance or convention going... I should be able to go on the opening weekend, but I need people to travel with. If anyone wants to travel with me (road trip) just contact me. Anywhere from Colorado to Seattle works for me!

Alan 01-22-2011 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Human No More (Post 124613)
Interesting idea, but I think we need a meetup for UK/Europe people as well... not all of us have the time/money to make it to the Avatar exhibit :(

...unless...the Avatar Exhibition comes to Europe? I don't know if anyone knows or not, but I'm sure I read somewhere that it was going on tour after Seattle...or have I just made that up?:rolleyes:

If not then I guess we need to know the level of interest for an event in Europe. Did anyone have a chance to download the questionnaire to see what they thought of it before we send it out to see what response we get? Here's the link again:

Convention/Meet Up Questionnaire

Look forward to your comments...

*goes into thinking mode about an event for somewhere in Europe...*:xD:

ISV Venture Star 01-22-2011 07:33 AM

Am sort of arranging a mini UK meet up in Feb. Anyone interested?

Sempu 01-22-2011 07:38 AM

The most practical venue - not the most inspiring one by a long way, but the one likely to get the most people - would be as an enclave within a World Science Fiction Convention.

The coolest one would be a private premiere of Avatar 2 in a near-jungle location such as a resort in Kauai. Likely number of attendees: somewhere under one.

Human No More 01-22-2011 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan (Post 124635)
...unless...the Avatar Exhibition comes to Europe? I don't know if anyone knows or not, but I'm sure I read somewhere that it was going on tour after Seattle...or have I just made that up?:rolleyes:

If not then I guess we need to know the level of interest for an event in Europe. Did anyone have a chance to download the questionnaire to see what they thought of it before we send it out to see what response we get? Here's the link again:

Convention/Meet Up Questionnaire

Look forward to your comments...

*goes into thinking mode about an event for somewhere in Europe...*:xD:

I like it :) - I can post it on Learnnavi as well when we are ready to collect the data.
As for UK/Europe, I like London - I can actually get there :P , and it's arguably the easiest place to get to from most of the area.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISV Venture Star (Post 124637)
Am sort of arranging a mini UK meet up in Feb. Anyone interested?

I am! :D

Alan 01-23-2011 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISV Venture Star (Post 124637)
Am sort of arranging a mini UK meet up in Feb. Anyone interested?

Kaltxi ISV! I would be interested! What's the plan? I could bring a copy of the forum film along if you want and I'm able to get. If not I can alway post one to you.

Alan 01-23-2011 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sempu (Post 124638)
The most practical venue - not the most inspiring one by a long way, but the one likely to get the most people - would be as an enclave within a World Science Fiction Convention.

The coolest one would be a private premiere of Avatar 2 in a near-jungle location such as a resort in Kauai. Likely number of attendees: somewhere under one.

I've just had a look at the site you mentioned above. Certainly well linked travel wise with air and rail links just about within walking distance! I couldn't find too much on the programme of events, just the themes of what they intend to cover. Did a search for Avatar on there but I didn't find anything :( Maybe an opportunity for us to change that... :) But survey first!

Alan 01-23-2011 08:26 PM

Kaltxi my friends,

Well I've been just doing some final tweaks to the Avatar Convention Survey. The only two tweaks I have added is a box for gender and a box for age group to help get the demagraphics that can help tailor such an event. So all together there are 10 questions. There, just an nice round number!

I have uploaded the updated survey here: http://www.mediafire.com/?6nb1a2onpq5o3s0

I have also update a dropbox webpage for people to upload their surveys to. This is www.thetaylorssite.f2s.com

So I think we are there now. All we need now are some volunteers to post the message below onto the various Avatar forums. Do we have any volunteers out there? I can post a new thread here and on AF. Could some folks post onto the following Avatar fans forums (that I can think of?)

LearnNa'vi (Could you do this one HNM, please?)
Na'viBlue
Avatar Prime

One thing to thing about is that some people only stick to certain forum subjects so to get maximum coverage can I suggest that besides posting on the 'Meet-Up' threads that we also post on the General Forums and also the General Avatar Forums. There could be others too, like fan art and fan fic, but the first three should hopefully get the majority coverage.

Just had a wacky thought. If we do make this happen we could call it the Toruk Makto Convention As it brings the clans together in a time of sorrow (no more Avatar until 2014) :'( :facepalm: Ok you can beat me up later.:P:D

Ok then, here is the following dit to copy out to the forums, if everyone is happy with it:


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Subject Title: Questionnaire for Possible Avatar Fan Meet Up or Convention - Fill in Now!
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"Kaltxi ma aysmukan sė aysmuke,

A number of us Avatar fans have been considering the possibility of bringing the clans together to a meet-up, convention or pre-organised convention. However, before anyone puts effort into organising such an event it would be a good idea to gauge the level of interest.

To help get this level of understanding a simple ten question survey has been pulled together. The survey can be downloaded by clicking on this link:

http://www.mediafire.com/?6nb1a2onpq5o3s0

It will take less than five minutes to answer. Once you have completed it, simply click on the link below which will take you to a webpage with a Mediafire 'dropbox', where you can upload your questionnaire:

www.thetaylorssite.f2s.com

We need your questionnaires in no later than 4th February 2011. After which we will collate the data an publish the results shortly after.

There is no guarantee that an Avatar meet-up or convention will happen, but the survey will help to decide if we can take our forum clans to a whole new level.

Irayo and Eywa ngahu..."

Sempu 01-23-2011 10:24 PM

SurveyMonkey might be a better tool for this; easier to use and free for this size of application.

CyanRachel 01-23-2011 11:18 PM

Kaltxi, Alan!

I can post it on the Naviblue site and AvatarPrime (unless someone else has already volunteered and beat me to it).

Human No More 01-24-2011 03:00 AM

hmm, looked into using a SurveyMonkey survey, but it is limited to 10 questions on a free account - By adding an explanation field to question 3, plus question 7 being two questions then it goes over 10 - I was thinking it could be compressed by removing the gender question and the state/county/region one (perhaps put in the question that they can specify the county/state as well). If we agree to that then I could publish the survey as it would certainly be much easier to get the data from :)

preview, should work when not logged in: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?P...h%2frDSs0lo%3d


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