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Species are to ecosystems as cells are to the human body, according to a mathematical model
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Although, I'm confused - given we are all facing overpopulation, why on earth would you call not having children 'selfish'?
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I think there certainly would be other sets of memes that would allow humans to be a benign species, maybe even a benign tumor (which in that analogy would be a small civilization that does not take away so much of the larger organism to threaten it). Quote:
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I extrapolated this from surveys in Germany, so maybe in other countries the numbers may be shifted, but I doubt they are significantly different. Here is a related article that explains this in more detail for those interested, this is a bit off topic for this thread though: Fewer Germans consider children essential part of life - The Local
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You are implying organisms have a purpose, or that they remain static over time, when neither is true.
Other than that, it's actually interesting, the claims of Earth being a nonsentient organism actually make more sense than the sentience claims, but just because something works in a similar manner doe not imply it is one. Certainly, it's a complicated system that arose over time and has specialised functions and, in effect, a form of homoeostasis occurs, but that doesn't mean it is an actual organism as such. either way, I hope something useful comes of this, perhaps better modelling of effects ![]()
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Well - i guess one would have to think about what an organism is.
A complicated system made of smaller parts that is organic and has grown organically and adapted to the circumstances it exists in certainly sounds like what one would call an organism. The discussion in the other thread (about Eywa as a fungal organism) about Earth as a sentient organism is more a philosophical exploration than anything scientific. This one here is scientific - probably more to your liking, HNM
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