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Old 01-12-2012, 12:18 PM
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Ok, I am probably hitting myself in the face with a fist by doing this but here is something that the technology lovers will just devour:
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The Global Village Construction Set (GVCS) is a modular, DIY, low-cost, high-performance platform that allows for the easy fabrication of the 50 different Industrial Machines that it takes to build a small, sustainable civilization with modern comforts.
Yay - all modern comforts but without the ecological damage, plus no corporations and hierarchy. . I am suspicious . But lets play this out and see what you here think of it. It has a couple of videos on it including an introduction and it also has a Wiki. I spent only half an hour looking at it yet, but I am sure there are things to comment about that...

Some of it reminds me a lot of what was said here about how the RDA created their base on Pandora.
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Well, if nothing else, it looks like fun.
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It's not a bad ideal - people coming together to develop minimal impact technology collectively. However, if they haven't already, they will need to consider the verification and validation of the design solutions they are developing to meet various standards and legislation. And there is no reason why they couldn't, if they haven't already.

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A very interesting idea, but I wonder how it scales and applies to more sophisticated equipment. Still shows potential though .
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I think I read something about trying to reach a 1990 level of sophistication. So that is just 20 years "back" but with the promise of basically low-impact, no-corporation autonomous way of life. I think if they really can make this (and I have severe doubts about the true sustainability of course), it would be a fine price to pay I'd say - maybe it is not an iPhone but a landline for them, but if that means to reduce impact from "toxic and exploitative" to "sustainable", I think this would be a reasonable tradeoff. Life was not that bad in the 1990ies...
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It's almost like you want humanities appreciation of everything and everyone to be global, but the sustainability and development to be local...if that makes sense. Tom minimise our impact on the planet that keeps us alive. The ideas with this technology direction seem to walk towards that goal in a way.

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The vast majority of people are never going to accept regression; it has to work to reproduce current quality of life before it will ever become truly scalable and realistic. Not saying it isn't, just that this is only a tiny step - a breakthrough, certainly, but not a revolution.
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I think I read something about trying to reach a 1990 level of sophistication. So that is just 20 years "back" but with the promise of basically low-impact, no-corporation autonomous way of life. I think if they really can make this (and I have severe doubts about the true sustainability of course), it would be a fine price to pay I'd say - maybe it is not an iPhone but a landline for them, but if that means to reduce impact from "toxic and exploitative" to "sustainable", I think this would be a reasonable tradeoff. Life was not that bad in the 1990ies...
You know that developing countries mostly skipped landline infrastructure entirely, since it was too expensive?
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