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Old 04-19-2010, 09:27 PM
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Future entertainment becomes simulated reality

Interesting. This timeline seems pretty accurate, we're already close to things like wall-mounted home control units. The opportunity to be on Pandora (or live out any of our fantasies) is very tantalizing, just make sure to steer clear of this guy. (Anyone volunteer to Avatarize Agent Smith? )



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I hope so... I'd love to experience Pandora. I'd never leave...
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Old 04-20-2010, 02:25 AM
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I hope so... I'd love to experience Pandora. I'd never leave...
I'd just use it recreationally, and then have my mind permanently uploaded on my deathbed.
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Old 04-20-2010, 03:46 AM
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Haha that's exactly what I was going to write.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:06 AM
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I hope so... I'd love to experience Pandora. I'd never leave...
And therein lies the danger in such technology. Not that I'm saying I would be any different. Put me in a believable reality with the Na'vi and you'd have to physically remove me from the device (and then defend yourself, lol)
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:26 AM
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I'd like to believe this...

...But I honestly don't. I don't think we'll ever have the technology to recreate a world environment that's "indistinguishable" from ours. Think about the word "indistinguishable" for a minute. That would mean entire recreations of everything exactly as it exists to our normal senses. If Pandora were to be created like this, the technology would have to be better than Cameron's work. It'd have to look more real, because after all, there are a few points in the movie where you can tell something's not right (digitally).

We are talking about exact replicas of humans in a digital realm. Think: exact replicas. We're talking about real movement with absolutely no flaws, and it doesn't stop there. Consider the AI involved. James Cameron created the Na'vi through CGI technology, and some seconds took weeks to make. Everything was animated precisely according to a layout. Nothing was accidental. That was just CGI technology. We're talking about AI. We'd have to find a way to do away with planned animation, where the animation itself can make decisions of its own, without any artists' help. Can you realize what that means? Can you even fathom that kind of information?

No, if we were to ever aquire such tech (though still very, very far from likely) it'd take IMO at least a hundred years.

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Old 04-20-2010, 10:38 AM
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I'd like to believe this...

...But I honestly don't. I don't think we'll ever have the technology to recreate a world environment that's "indistinguishable" from ours. Think about the word "indistinguishable" for a minute. That would mean entire recreations of everything exactly as it exists to our normal senses. If Pandora were to be created like this, the technology would have to be better than Cameron's work. It'd have to look more real, because after all, there are a few points in the movie where you can tell something's not right (digitally).

We are talking about exact replicas of humans in a digital realm. Think: exact replicas. We're talking about real movement with absolutely no flaws, and it doesn't stop there. Consider the AI involved. James Cameron created the Na'vi through CGI technology, and some seconds took weeks to make. Everything was animated precisely according to a layout. Nothing was accidental. That was just CGI technology. We're talking about AI. We'd have to find a way to do away with planned animation, where the animation itself can make decisions of its own, without any artists' help. Can you realize what that means? Can you even fathom that kind of information?

No, if we were to ever aquire such tech (though still very, very far from likely) it'd take IMO at least a hundred years.
I'm inclined to go with your opinion. But hey, people said the Russians wouldn't be the first in space. Its amazing how the reality differs from the belief. We may see this technology yet, but I would put it very far away, 300-500 years maybe. We're talking extremely advanced stuff here.
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Well, this blog is written from the point of view of a futurist, many of whom have theories dependent on the technological singularity (which I believe in to a degree).

Creating simulated reality using nanobots would be fairly easy, because it relies on brain-power, not computer power. Basically all this would be is an artificial lucid-dream.

Actually creating a simulated reality using a seperate computer (like the Matrix) would be more difficult, but something I beleive we might have in the visible (though not near) future. Look at how quickly computer power is increasing, and soon we will have quantum computers.

Here is basically where we are when it comes to real time rendering. Remember, this was created in the moment using a dynamic game engine. Impressive!

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Old 04-30-2010, 12:11 AM
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Bump.

On the issue of computer power, it seems like some major leaps have been made recently.

Nanodot Tech Crams Billions of Pages of Information onto a Single Tiny Chip | Popular Science

Molecule-Sized Computer Mimics Human Brain At Work | Popular Science

Researchers Witness and Image Atomic Spin for the First Time | Popular Science
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A nice thanks for the electron SPIN article.
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