How will Grace Return? - Page 2 - Tree of Souls - An Avatar Community Forum
Tree of Souls - An Avatar Community Forum
Go Back   Tree of Souls - An Avatar Community Forum » Avatar Sequels » Sequel Discussion

View Poll Results: How will Grace return in the sequels?
Flashbacks only 11 19.64%
In dreams 5 8.93%
As an apparition (or as Eywa) 20 35.71%
Reborn in her Avatar Body 14 25.00%
Other 3 5.36%
She will not return 3 5.36%
Voters: 56. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 02-27-2011, 03:48 AM
Aaron's Avatar
Tsamsiyu
Aaron has no status.
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 509
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BotanicalMedley View Post
Well, there would be no reason to keep Grace's avatar if they think she can't be "put" back into it, which is probably the case. I think her avatar would deteriorate because it's staying in a vegitative state without any nutrients for several years, since it's most likely buried. I see no way they could have gotten it back to Hell's Gate, being in the predicament they were in. But they could have gotten it there after the war... But for what purpose? To make more avatars using the DNA?
Well, the avatars seem to be able to lie around a few days without food. And Norm's avatar was shot. And the movie is less clear about the fate of his avatar than the script and deleted scenes are... Maybe in an opening flashback at the beginning of Avatar II, we see Norm's avatar being saved by a organ transplant from Grace's avatar.
__________________

My Avatar fanfic | My 3D Avatar album | A bit about my profile picture.

Last edited by Aaron; 02-27-2011 at 03:56 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 02-27-2011, 11:09 AM
Human No More's Avatar
Toruk Makto, Admin
Human No More has no status.
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: In a datacentre
Posts: 11,748
Default

In the shoulder?
Yeah, lots of vital organs there

Norm's avatar was probably badly injured, but would just need to go back into one of those tanks to recover for a while.
__________________
...
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 02-27-2011, 11:49 AM
Olo'eyktan
Woodsprite is free.
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Denton, Texas, USA
Posts: 3,153
Default

I think he was killed. He was probably shot in many places in his upper left tortso, including his heart. When he fell down, he was clearly unconscious.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 02-27-2011, 03:36 PM
Aaron's Avatar
Tsamsiyu
Aaron has no status.
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 509
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Human No More View Post
In the shoulder?
Yeah, lots of vital organs there
Well... maybe not in a human... And you never know what a day of steady blood-loss will do.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsprite View Post
I think he was killed. He was probably shot in many places in his upper left tortso, including his heart. When he fell down, he was clearly unconscious.
A pity, but probably true. I hope not, though. I hope that the reason the deleted scene was deleted was because JC decided to leave open the possibility of Norm's avatar being in the sequels. Not having one really seems to limit his potential.

Back to Grace, though...
__________________

My Avatar fanfic | My 3D Avatar album | A bit about my profile picture.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 02-27-2011, 04:10 PM
TxonTirea's Avatar
Nawmtu
TxonTirea Loves Jake! <3
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: The Void
Posts: 1,190
Default

IMO, she'll come back as some apparition of Eywa, like a Prophet. ^_^
__________________


Quote:
[12:40:18 AM] Josh Sully: so let me get this straight Txon, you're a Gay, Cross dressing, Avatar Obsessed, Japanese addicted furry?
Love Rekindled: Tsu'tey x Jake
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 02-27-2011, 05:15 PM
Human No More's Avatar
Toruk Makto, Admin
Human No More has no status.
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: In a datacentre
Posts: 11,748
Default

I think that the reason that scene was not done was in order to leave options open - much like the ending scene where Neytiri is pregnant - if that was in the film, JC would be a lot more restricted in what could happen in the sequel. Equally, while I don't think Trudy will come back , then you never see her actually die - although I don't consider it likely (especially if Grace will be back), it is still ambiguous.
__________________
...
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 09-19-2011, 08:04 AM
mikkowilson's Avatar
Tsamsiyu
mikkowilson has no status.
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Juneau, Alaska (Not Kansas, any more)
Posts: 661
Send a message via MSN to mikkowilson Send a message via Skype™ to mikkowilson
Default

OH man I hate it when SciFi brings people back from the dead.

As soon as a character is bought back from being dead, it not only undermines their death, but also every other character's death. Regardless of the specifics of how.

If Grace comes back (to life), then can we really truly weep for Trudy, or relax at Quaritch's defeat?

Flashbacks is different, as would be some "voice of Eywa" type stuff in this case. But Back to life? Does nothing but spoil the power of her death.

- Mikko
__________________
Mikko Wilson
Juneau, Alaska, USA
+1 (907) 321-8387 - mikkowilson@hotmail.com - www.mikkowilson.com
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 09-21-2011, 02:49 AM
Human No More's Avatar
Toruk Makto, Admin
Human No More has no status.
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: In a datacentre
Posts: 11,748
Default

I would say yes, if it's just Grace. Neither Trudy nor Quaritch connected to the network, so there are none of their memories there to be retained.
__________________
...
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 09-21-2011, 03:45 AM
Moco Loco's Avatar
Dandy Lion
Moco Loco is a lion in a low place
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 2,911
Send a message via Skype™ to Moco Loco
Default

I hope Grace's avatar is well taken care of and she ends up back in it
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 09-22-2011, 09:28 AM
Helicoradian's Avatar
Nawmtu
Helicoradian nope...no status
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Washington
Posts: 1,220
Default

I think appearing as an apparition would make the most sense.

Another possibility is Grace could manifest herself through Jake. Wouldn't wanna see it happen though
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 09-22-2011, 11:04 AM
tm20's Avatar
Olo'eyktan
tm20 has no status.
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,751
Default

i really hope she returns in her Avatar, and like mentioned if she is part Eywa (making her like an Avatar for Eywa) that would be cool
__________________
There are many dangers on Pandora, and one of the subtlest is that you may come to love it too much.

Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 09-23-2011, 07:16 AM
iron_jones's Avatar
Olo'eyktan
iron_jones hasn't received an infraction since 2011
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,848
Default

I was hoping by the power of Odin.
__________________


Misery Forever.

O vos ómnes qui transítis per víam, atténdite et vidéte
Si est dólor símilis sícut dólor méus.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 09-27-2011, 11:37 PM
EywaBlessMe's Avatar
Hapxìtu
EywaBlessMe Disillusioned Tawtute (but you can call me Vawmpay)
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: under cover, ducking the bullets
Posts: 182
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Human No More View Post
they are in what seems like a state of deep hibernation and minimal process to the point that even basic functions like breathing are very low, as with no neural activity other than maintaining control of autonomic functions
Why would they even bother keeping her avatar around if she is "dead"?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 09-27-2011, 11:45 PM
Clarke's Avatar
Karyu
Clarke wants his own Avatar.
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Scotland, 140 years too early
Posts: 1,330
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EywaBlessMe View Post
Why would they even bother keeping her avatar around if she is "dead"?
Because plot? Anyway, we don't know what Eywa is capable of, so I basically have no clue.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 09-28-2011, 02:12 AM
Human No More's Avatar
Toruk Makto, Admin
Human No More has no status.
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: In a datacentre
Posts: 11,748
Default

Because her avatar isn't dead?
Depending on when, they might not have decided even what to do with it yet, although I guess it will likely be later rather than sooner.
__________________
...
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Visit our partner sites:

      pandoraworld.ru



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:00 PM.

Based on the Planet Earth theme by Themes by Design


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
All images and clips of Avatar are the exclusive property of 20th Century Fox.