I have a question for you Clarke, how much ACTUAL, NO WAR GAMES, ASYMETRICAL combat time do you have? I have three tours in Vietnam. I have seen first hand what non explosive traps, made out of nothing but jungle can do. This was during a time when we had something nicknamed "Rice Paddy Radar" that was slaved into the 20MM chain guns on the tops of 113's.
As far as advanced imaging equipment, the flux vortex would not allow the weaponry to pick up the arrows in flight, not no, but hell no.
There is still a fair amount of ammo on the base, use your head. The "natives" and the "Rebels" have won a military victory that very close to eclipsing the one at the Little Big Horn, when it comes to the numbers of enemy killed. The RDA was in NO position to take ANY of their weapons, ammo, fuel, medical supplies, or anything else with them.
They can consider themselves VERY lucky that they were not ALL taken out into the woods and shot.
They left behind aircraft, ampsuits, lots of ammunition, the crew served anti aircraft weapons that guarded the base, (possibly PLASMA CANNONS, they HAD the reactors to power them), there was a TON of stuff left behind for the Na'vi to fight with.
When it comes to the Ikrans "Flinging" flex wings into the mountains, they definitely COULD, this is coming coming from a pilot with flight time in five figure numbers.
There is this thing called torque moment, and it would NOT take more than a few hundred pounds of pressure in yaw on the very tail of one of those ships to send it spinning. If they did it close to something made of rock, the aircraft is gone.
Niri Te

As valuable as that would be in the case of Iraq or another modern war, in the grim darkness of the future, the "game" changes significantly. Obviously you know far more about this than I do, but I was under the impression that the Vietcong did not have ambulatory tanks.
...Because that's what an AMP suit is. It's an ambulatory, nigh-bulletproof mechanized tank. (which happens to have a massive weakness in the form of a weak windshield, but that's probably quite easy to fix.)

More generally, a war comparable to that between the RDA and the Na'vi has never happened in human history, because it's always been squishy humans fighting. Here, it's not: the Na'vi are orders of magnitude squishier than the RDA's AMPs and the like. They will die to weapons that will not scratch AMPs or shuttles, or most any other vehicle the RDA throws into the conflict.

Computing technology has marched on unrecognisably in 35 years. Apart from the fact that radar can't accurately detect man-sized targets, the control system for that device is going to be simplistic enough to run on my phone. A control system for a modern semi-autonomous weapon (e.g. drones) is literally orders of magnitude more intelligent.

So the arrow would not be visible in flight at all? That seems to be what you're suggesting, since a computerized system could take advantage of any sort of "vision" it likes, whether that's conventional radar, visible light, micron-wave radar, or infra-red.

The vast majority of it will be completely useless to the Na'vi, and the humans will not know how to use it. (Since the only human who did know got himself permanently turned into a Na'vi) The vehicles, medicine, and smaller weapons cannot be used simply because of the laws of physics and biology. Also as mentioned, practising with it uses it up, which is obviously a really bad idea.

(And plasma cannons are not effective weapons in an atmosphere.)

Putting that few hundred pounds of torque through the Ikran's neck, as Newton requires, is not going to do it any favours.

You know, your ability to selectively misunderstand stuff is amazing. Like the Vietcong, the Na'vi would NOT be in AMPsuits, they WOULD NOT FIT!
To pick something up a small as an arrow in flight with all the magnetic chatter going on, would be VERY tough for the equipment to detect, and almost impossible for a human operator to notice.
Because of the limitations of the starships, there may not be ANY AMPsuits brought to Pandora, and even if there were some, you DON'T use arrows on them, you use the arrows on the soft squishy Marines.
There are others BESIDES Jake that know how that equipment works, if you paid attention at the end of the movie, there are several avatars holding Coax's on the parade of RDA being herded into the shuttle. If Trudy went rogue, it is entirely possible that OTHER pilots did as well, so there could quite possibly be a small cadre of pilots on Pandora as well. there were also non avatar humans with guns guarding the RDA being sent back, these were probably technicians, rogue military, and support personnel that took part in the deleted scene of the attack on the control room.
As for the anti aircraft defenses at Hellsgate, they would be used for incoming aircraft, not ground targets.
In the years that would transpire before another ship from Earth could arrive, Jake, and and the other humans would train the Na'vi in small unit tactics, IED's booby traps, etcetera.
From now on, I will only discuss this with other MILITARY COMBAT VETERANS.
Niri Te

Stay cool people.

1. They can't get it started.
2. They don't have ****ing WMD or whatever you're fantasising about. Go pay 40k or watch Battle Los Angeles or whatever so you can have your "mehrens killing teh aleins for being difrnt" and leave Avatar alone; it's not the genre you want it to be - tough.

Unfortunately for you, that was toruk, and you fail to understand the physics of exactly how rotors work - if it's lost that vertical control, it can't regain it as easily as you believe.

Nobody meant physically. As soon as any marine sets foot on Pandora, they are going to be dead, to say nothing of how eminently detectable their arrival would be, and the VERY small cargo available to them. An ISV couldn't even fit a base in it, let alone any marines, weapons or vehicles at the same time.

We already dealt with that. You're already close to trolling here, so I suggest you leave it alone.

Did you of all people forget about the stereolithography plant? Or are you just trolling for the sake of it?

No, it's not 'worse than useless', you still have options you don't with nothing. Learn basic English.
If they removed the ampsuit's windscreen, it would be unable to see where it's going. That's a big flaw, and one I assume even you would be able to understand why.

Nope.

INFRARED DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY. Stop watching bad films. It's great for tracking someone running across an open area at night, but in this situation, everything would disrupt it and you'd get a mostly-homogenous image.


I can read your posts, which are 100% invasion-fantasy bull****.

hurr durr 40k. what have I always said?

If you don't want to see where you're going at all, yeah, kind of.

THEY WOULD NOT HAVE GOT THERE. How can I explain this to someone of your level of stupidity? There is no way, plausible or implausible, for them to land some massive invasion force there. THIS IS NOT 40k. There are no kilometres-long ships with drop pods and massive lasers, there is no teleportation technology or FTL travel. Deal with it or GTFO, because, quite honestly, I'm sick and tired of your continual bashing Avatar for not being what you wanted it to be.

So Jake has somehow lost access to knowledge as a human thanks to changing bodies? So the 10-20+ humans there are can't work things out?
No. Stop making such contrived failures of logic that even a six-year-old could unpick as being the fantasies of a Mad Editor who is bitter that Avatar wasn't some 'spess mehrens killing teh aleins' film.
Deal with it. Avatar isn't the film you wanted it to be, and is infinitely better than anything you could ever make, and going on about how you'd wipe out the Na'vi 50,000 different ways won't change that.

Good luck. I'm being totally serious here, since I don't think the experience you're looking for exists, and I presume I don't have to remind you of the mess at the start of WW1 that resulted from officers thinking war still worked the way it always had.

HNM, can you come back when we can discuss this without you insulting my intelligence, motives and integrity?