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Old 08-19-2015, 09:19 PM
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So it's anyone's guess what the sequels will consist of. With possibly three sequels in the works there's a lot of story to tell, but what will the final moment in the final film be?

In the beginning of the first film we fly over the forest of Pandora with Jake's voice leading us in. He says he woke up in a VA hospital with a hole blown through his life. That statement got me to thinking of a possible "surprise ending."

What if it turns out that none of it happened and Jake was simply in a coma...

No Pandora, no ikran, no forests, no Na'vi, and no Neytiri...

Just a dream...



...Jake, leaving the hospital to get back to his "life."
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Old 08-19-2015, 10:04 PM
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I for one sure hope a cheap trick like that is below James Cameron. "It was all just a dream" is so insanely overused, and so incredibly disappointing.
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Old 08-19-2015, 10:54 PM
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Especially given his intention for the movies to have an environmental impact - "Nah, none of that is that important, it's all just a dream anyway"

The only time the "it was all just a dream" really works is when they put an unexpected twist on it (The Matrix, certain Doctor Who episodes, among others), but Avatar isn't really the kind of movie that lends itself well to those kind of story elements.
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So it's anyone's guess what the sequels will consist of. With possibly three sequels in the works there's a lot of story to tell, but what will the final moment in the final film be?

In the beginning of the first film we fly over the forest of Pandora with Jake's voice leading us in. He says he woke up in a VA hospital with a hole blown through his life. That statement got me to thinking of a possible "surprise ending."

What if it turns out that none of it happened and Jake was simply in a coma...

No Pandora, no ikran, no forests, no Na'vi, and no Neytiri...

Just a dream...



...Jake, leaving the hospital to get back to his "life."
A similar thought has crossed my mind. That Avatar 1-3 is a dream taking place during the trip to Pandora. It's a dream, but a dream that's really Eywa in telepathic contact with Jake; explaining how things are going to go. And Avatar 4 would be a remake of the first film with the entire original cast. Except this time around Jake has a bit more expertise on how to live on Pandora, because from his perspective he's been living there for years. He would know in a general sense what needs to be done, but he'll have to figure out how to do it without losing Hometree, the tree(s) of voices, the tree of souls or any of his friends.

One major difference the second time around would be instead of Mo'at asking why Jake has come, that conversation would go more along the lines of "we've been expecting you".

Again, this is just something I've thought about from time to time.
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Old 08-20-2015, 07:01 AM
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I don't think there will/should(IMO) be a sudden plot twist along the lines of "It was just a dream" But I am very interested to see what Cameron has in store for us
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Old 08-20-2015, 08:34 PM
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I for one sure hope a cheap trick like that is below James Cameron. "It was all just a dream" is so insanely overused, and so incredibly disappointing.
It is an overused element of many books and films, but sometimes finding a fitting end to a story is so difficult that many writers and directors use that to fallback on.

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Especially given his intention for the movies to have an environmental impact - "Nah, none of that is that important, it's all just a dream anyway"

The only time the "it was all just a dream" really works is when they put an unexpected twist on it (The Matrix, certain Doctor Who episodes, among others), but Avatar isn't really the kind of movie that lends itself well to those kind of story elements.
From the perspective that he was injured in battle as a Marine here on Earth and may be in a VA hospital still and in coma would make such a story element plausible, but I really feel that if that were the case we would have seen that in the end of the first film and it certainly wouldn't span across four films just to end with "Oh, and it was just a dream." Still, the intro to the first film gives us a back story that doesn't really seem to matter in the first film, but it can't be ignored for what it could mean in future installments. He even says that while in the hospital he kept having dreams of flying. So the key word (dream) has been incorporated within the first few lines of the first film.

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A similar thought has crossed my mind. That Avatar 1-3 is a dream taking place during the trip to Pandora. It's a dream, but a dream that's really Eywa in telepathic contact with Jake; explaining how things are going to go. And Avatar 4 would be a remake of the first film with the entire original cast. Except this time around Jake has a bit more expertise on how to live on Pandora, because from his perspective he's been living there for years. He would know in a general sense what needs to be done, but he'll have to figure out how to do it without losing Hometree, the tree(s) of voices, the tree of souls or any of his friends.

One major difference the second time around would be instead of Mo'at asking why Jake has come, that conversation would go more along the lines of "we've been expecting you".

Again, this is just something I've thought about from time to time.
That's an interesting twist. It's better than the "it didn't happen" that comes from any "it was just a dream" plot. Perhaps he dreams it all, but when he gets there it's nothing like the dream. That way you can use all the same characters again (including those who have died) and tell the first story a second time from a fresh perspective.

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I don't think there will/should(IMO) be a sudden plot twist along the lines of "It was just a dream" But I am very interested to see what Cameron has in store for us
You never know what type of twists we'll see. I can't wait to see what James Cameron comes up with either. From a fan perspective I can't really see what the sequels might be about. I wouldn't even know where to begin if I was given the task to come up with just one sequel and James Cameron is planning three. Obviously we're going to continue to follow Jake, Neytiri, and the Omaticaya. Aside from that of course there's going to be some threat, but surely James Cameron wouldn't use the same plot over and over. Follow Jake and Neytiri through inevitable disaster in all four films would probably get old. Like I said, from a fan perspective I'm not able to really see what direction you could take the sequels. As long as I get to see more Neytiri I'll be happy.

And of course, James Cameron was able to tell the story of the Titanic with many true elements while infusing a fictional love story in with it. So he does have a lot of creative tricks up his sleeves. I know one thing, James Cameron needs to allow the next installments to be rated R so we can incorporate more adult content into the story to open it up a bit.

Then we could get some hardcore Neytiri and Jake action.
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I'm going to be very suspicious if anyone handwaves Avatar's backstory with, "It's a long story."

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One major difference the second time around would be instead of Mo'at asking why Jake has come, that conversation would go more along the lines of "we've been expecting you".
IMO, rerunning Avatar with Jake knowing what he's doing would produce a radically different film.
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IMO, rerunning Avatar with Jake knowing what he's doing would produce a radically different film.
Yes. Yes it would.
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I hope JC knows that this will just ruin all Avatar fans.So I guess he wouldnt write a plot like that.But Crickett's opinion is really nice though.Im getting more excited every second 2 more years of waiting is a pain.
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That's such a cop out. No one would use that.
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