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discounthobo159 09-06-2016 05:01 PM

What would ruin Avatar 2 for you
 
For me it would be if they chose the wrong person to compose the soundtrack, it would lose all its atmosphere and beauty, what would ruin avatar 2 for you? :shock:

Crickett 09-06-2016 06:46 PM

Actually, a lot of things.

1. The already mentioned bad soundtrack
2. If they try to basically re-make the first movie. Quaritch is back from the dead (alive via Frankenstein science), trying to destroy the tree of souls in order to conquer the world of Pandora and get all of the unobtanium.
3. If we spend the majority of the movie underwater and it doesn't live up to the majesty of the surface of Pandora.
4. If it's a cliffhanger ending a la Matrix reloaded.



I'm going to be honest. I'm actually afraid of the sequel and I have been for a very long time. There have been so many delays, there have been o many sub-par sequels in other franchises and the story of the first one ended in such a way that I really don't know where it can go next. Is it just going to be the humans coming back and trying again? Stephen Lang is returning, is it a clone or did they bring him back from the head after getting shot through the heart with two spear sized arrows? None of that sounds particularly good, but what else is there for them to do?

Dr. Na'vi 09-06-2016 07:37 PM

^All of the above to some degree, but personally here's my greatest concern (by far!):

The introduction of some kind of magic or supernatural force without reasonable explanation.
Avatar 2 would still be a decent experience for me I guess, but this unique, extraordinary level of immersion that made the first one so "special" will be gone.

Avatar is a 100% believable, untainted, and incredibly beautiful SciFi universe, and I really, really hope Cameron always has the last word during production and everything stays that way :)

Empty Glass 09-07-2016 05:38 AM

Unnecessary scenes with gratuitous action and splosions comes to mind first.

A bad soundtrack definitely would be unfortunate, though I'll cut some slack for whoever ends up stepping into James Horner's avatar-sized boots.

And also I would feel like the movie would be incomplete without something stressing the importance of environmental stewardship. Detractors say Avatar is a rip-off of Ferngully; I say there aren't enough such rip-offs being made in this day and age.

discounthobo159 09-08-2016 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Crickett (Post 186199)
Actually, a lot of things.

1. The already mentioned bad soundtrack
2. If they try to basically re-make the first movie. Quaritch is back from the dead (alive via Frankenstein science), trying to destroy the tree of souls in order to conquer the world of Pandora and get all of the unobtanium.
3. If we spend the majority of the movie underwater and it doesn't live up to the majesty of the surface of Pandora.
4. If it's a cliffhanger ending a la Matrix reloaded.



I'm going to be honest. I'm actually afraid of the sequel and I have been for a very long time. There have been so many delays, there have been o many sub-par sequels in other franchises and the story of the first one ended in such a way that I really don't know where it can go next. Is it just going to be the humans coming back and trying again? Stephen Lang is returning, is it a clone or did they bring him back from the head after getting shot through the heart with two spear sized arrows? None of that sounds particularly good, but what else is there for them to do?

sorry for the late reply, but yup i defintely agree. I'd also like to add, that it would be a complete ruin if they added kids to the film - because i hate to say it but... child actors suck. also the main problem with the first avatar film was that for the most part James cameron was 'technology wise' jumping off a cliff and knitting a parachute on the way down, which meant for a really 2D (predictable) plot. so now JC's got over the tech problem hopefully he'll focus on the Navi culture etc. and not thrown in some kids :awesome:

Na'vi a Kepekmė 09-08-2016 11:40 PM

I think James is a good movie maker.
What would ruin Avatar 2 is not having either an exploration of Pandora or a story.

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the story of the first one ended in such a way that I really don't know where it can go next.
Remember that the movie ended with the avatar Jake opening his eyes after the transfer.

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that it would be a complete ruin if they added kids to the film
There were children in Avatar. :P They were figurative characters, but if you talk about secondary ones, it's OK.

discounthobo159 09-09-2016 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Na'vi a Kepekmė (Post 186251)
There were children in Avatar. :P They were figurative characters, but if you talk about secondary ones, it's OK.

but how will they incorporate them into the film - with jake and quacktiri being full time warriors? :rolleyes: or is it gonna be like The Incredibles where the kids come along too :xD:

Na'vi a Kepekmė 09-10-2016 12:04 AM

The Incrediblatars! :xD:
Featuring Jake, Neytiri, Jake Jr. and Jakette.

Tbh the movie is still a great mystery.

discounthobo159 09-10-2016 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Na'vi a Kepekmė (Post 186270)
The Incrediblatars! :xD:
Featuring Jake, Neytiri, Jake Jr. and Jakette.

Tbh the movie is still a great mystery.

LOL & yep i defintely agree, i've already said this in another thread but JC kept curfews on crew so that they didn't have too much free time to go talk to anyone about the movie and the studio they filmed it in was titled project x (something like that) :) if you havent already read the making of book i'd defo recommend:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...57c4b6fe04.jpg
(it'll atleast keep you busy until the film comes out) :D

Wind12 09-15-2016 03:52 AM

As for me, I know to realize that to meet or exceed the first experience, is going to be hard to do, so Im not going to over expect, but, 1. James Cameron is good with sequels IMO. 2. JC said that he wants Avatar to be his Legacy, knowing how much effort he puts into his stuff, something that HE wants to be his legacy is going to have been well thought out, not some cookie cutter sequel, the reason for the nearly decade wait is because he has been working on the story, so it will be a well thought out progect. I guess the only SLIGHT, SLIGHT fear is maybe the chance that things are "overthought" being that he wants this franchise to be his legacy, it might be possible that he overthinks something and maybe it affects the quality of the plot, But even so I LOVE avatar and it probably wouldnt bother me, and again I trust that its going to be a well thought out ride and I am stoked for the day the rest of the journey resumes.

Ja'k Dawsiin 12-10-2017 11:40 PM

the only thing that would ruin the sequels for me, is JC not finishing the story he started, but since he is shooting them all back to back/concurrently, it looks like we're in for a heck of a ride, starting in 2020!

Crickett 12-11-2017 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ja'k Dawsiin (Post 190713)
the only thing that would ruin the sequels for me, is JC not finishing the story he started, but since he is shooting them all back to back/concurrently, it looks like we're in for a heck of a ride, starting in 2020!

Supposedly, if Avatar 2 & 3 do not do well enough, there will not be an Avatar 4 or 5. I do not know what that means. What does "not well enough" constitute? Is a billion dollars worldwide "well enough"? While they will most likely do well, I do not expect the Avatar sequels to push the original for the worldwide box office record. Does it need to break that record to get the final two movies?

Exoblade 12-11-2017 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Crickett (Post 190718)
Supposedly, if Avatar 2 & 3 do not do well enough, there will not be an Avatar 4 or 5. I do not know what that means. What does "not well enough" constitute? Is a billion dollars worldwide "well enough"? While they will most likely do well, I do not expect the Avatar sequels to push the original for the worldwide box office record. Does it need to break that record to get the final two movies?

I suspect they want it to be equal to or get more overall between the two movies than the first. I guess that after so long someone is worried that the movie will bomb/perform poorly and doesn't want to get accused of wasting millions.

Ertew 12-17-2017 01:15 PM

Imho the worst things that ma happened:
- Missing Ney.
- Making Av2 less than 120 min (2 hours) long.

Ja'k Dawsiin 12-17-2017 04:44 PM

um, not being alive to see them! :) *raises glass to good health for all*

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