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Old 05-08-2019, 05:27 AM
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Avatar Sequels Delayed, Disney Alternates Releases with Star Wars Through 2027

I get the sense that this is more of a decision from Disney's part...I dunno. In any case...

I admit I was getting used to the idea that the sequel was the next calendar year away.
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Old 05-08-2019, 07:02 AM
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This is depressing.
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Old 05-12-2019, 06:38 AM
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Meanwhile, at Disney...

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Old 05-12-2019, 03:59 PM
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Meanwhile, at Disney...

More the package has been shunted to the back of the queue to make way of high priority mail. From a business perspective it makes sense to space of the sequels between other disney projects but it is still depressing to get another years delay.

Perhaps if we're luckly they might re-release the remastered (and possibley retconned) original in 2020 to build interest.
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Old 05-14-2019, 08:56 PM
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Old 05-24-2019, 03:10 PM
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remember when yall thought it would come out in like 2012 or 2013
Star Trek Sequel Shooting In 2011; Avatar 2 Sequel Straight After?
whatever happens it's going to be totally different from the avatar we knew, just wait
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Old 05-25-2019, 04:36 PM
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remember when yall thought it would come out in like 2012 or 2013
Star Trek Sequel Shooting In 2011; Avatar 2 Sequel Straight After?
whatever happens it's going to be totally different from the avatar we knew, just wait
Yeah it's gonna be greasy af
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Old 05-27-2019, 04:11 AM
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this is depressing.....................
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Old 06-06-2019, 03:14 AM
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Seeing the difference between Terminator and Terminator 2 gives me confidence that the quality will be there, and that it will be well worth the wait. I know that with the advances in technology it will be even more visually stunning than the original. I just hope that it isn't so different that it doesn't seem like Pandora anymore. I so love the magical feeling of the first film, and how I felt the first time I saw the bioluminescent forest. I enjoy that far away distant feeling I get from places like that. It's why I enjoy watching abstract animations by aspiring animators. I got the same feeling when I watched "Mune: The Guardian of the Moon."

The thing I'm afraid of most is that James Cameron will make it too political. I don't really care how the sequels do at the box office; I just want them to be true to the original vision — minus the political and social issues of today. The great thing about storytelling, especially if it's set in the future, is that you can paint a different picture of the direction of human history where solutions to problems have been found. That has a far more positive psychological effect on the audience, and gives people a more hopeful view of the future. If I showed you a movie depicting human civilization one million years from now with current social and political issues still taking place it would give you a depressing outlook on the future.

I want to go to Pandora — not Political Propaganda Land.
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The thing I'm afraid of most is that James Cameron will make it too political. I don't really care how the sequels do at the box office; I just want them to be true to the original vision — minus the political and social issues of today. The great thing about storytelling, especially if it's set in the future, is that you can paint a different picture of the direction of human history where solutions to problems have been found. That has a far more positive psychological effect on the audience, and gives people a more hopeful view of the future. If I showed you a movie depicting human civilization one million years from now with current social and political issues still taking place it would give you a depressing outlook on the future.

I want to go to Pandora — not Political Propaganda Land.
In your mind, what exactly would make Avatar 2 look like Political Propaganda Land?
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Old 06-06-2019, 07:00 AM
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I still think the sequels are going to be fine, even though the gap is going to be wow, judging bybthe success of Pandora in Florida, and people tend to be courious creatures, knowing that JC has been working on these almost by now "mythical" sequels for a decade, that will be enough to pull peole in to see, and once they are in the theaters, then the sequels will just have to do what they are suppossed to .
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In your mind, what exactly would make Avatar 2 look like Political Propaganda Land?
I don't know about Disco, but it'd become outright political propaganda when the narrative focuses on the message rather than the story, plugging in little (or large?) references to obvious controversies we have now that have nothing to do with the story's progression. Though notice I say "nothing to do with the story's progression".

Avatar had a very big political message in it: environmentalism and military disruption. The reason it didn't matter to most was because those messages were entwined with the story's progression, and an overarching love story, combined with exciting and interesting sequences, overshadowed as well. This is why the politics in Avatar worked, even if anyone disagreed with them. Hell, even I disagreed with the politics, but I don't give two craps about the politics because the film, as a whole, was a masterpiece. Case closed.

That all being said, Cameron is too much a veteran in Hollywood and storytelling to make the mistake of getting too politically-driven to the point of plugging stuff. Cameron doesn't plug, he molds. That's how he gets away from political controversy in his films: he doesn't make the movie about the politics. He makes it about the story. If political messages are in it, who cares? The story is great. That's it.
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Cameron is too much a veteran in Hollywood and storytelling to make the mistake of getting too politically-driven to the point of plugging stuff. Cameron doesn't plug, he molds. That's how he gets away from political controversy in his films: he doesn't make the movie about the politics. He makes it about the story. If political messages are in it, who cares? The story is great. That's it.
I feel like superhero movies are the only high budget content judged in that way anymore, but I don't even watch a lot of movies these days, I think the last time I saw something in a theater was Get Out
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