Should religion, culture, ethnic group,... be taken in count?

[ZenitYerkes]

When I read headlines in the newspapers, like:

"Woman assaulted by black man"

or

"Catholic priest accused of rape"

or

"Three Moroccan immigrants killed woman and left corpse in..."

I wonder; is it relevant where is the criminal from or what their creed is? Is the collective responsible for the crimes of a person? I mean, not all black people are burglars, not the whole Catholic Church is rapist neither Morocco is a country of serial killers.

Not even the majority of them.

Isn't it unfair that we see this happening to frequently in the media?

"Deport all Muslim people, they all have declared a holy war against us. Soon this will be just another Islamized country. And you don't want to wear a scarf by law, do you?"

"Those Mexicans are sh*t. Drug dealers, gangsters, lazy bums,... they don't even speak English. We would be better off without them."

And the list just keeps going.

[rapunzel77]

What you are pointing out is what is wrong with the media today. It isn't enough for them to just report the news. Nope, they think that they need to "educate" people about the news and that means using an narrative to tell the "stories" if you will. So, they put people into groups, identifying them by their race, culture, and religion. This gives the impression to many people that the groups that the particular criminal, etc represents adheres to the same beliefs (ie. all Muslims are terrorists, all Mexicans are taking jobs, all Catholic priests are pedophiles, etc). This is why it is so important to sift through what they are saying and ignore it. Never get your history and information from the news. They are almost always lying.

[Spock]

I don't really know what to believe, it happens on both sides. There are those that advocate a completely immersive society, and then there are those that incriminate immigrants indescriminantly. I need time to work this out.

Edit: Ok try this, don't listen to news media, find out for yourself, do your own research and try and get the answers. Statistics speak for themselves.

[Banefull]

Its all about catching the eye.

"Woman assaulted by man"

or

"Person accused of rape"

or

"Three people killed woman and left corpse in..."

doesn't nearly get as many viewers as what you just said. Something is wrong on both sides of the media fence. The media exists for the sole purpose of your $$ and they do whatever gets them the $$.

[EywaBlessMe]

Originally Posted by Banefull

Its all about catching the eye.

I have to disagree. If the story is about a black man or a Moroccan or whatever, then that is a part of the story. If somebody does something newsworty, then we want to know. It may not be crucial, or integral, but it is definitely a part.

BTW, Saying "catholic priest" is redundant, since all priests are Catholic.

[Human No More]

If the group is a factor, then yes.

[Banefull]

Originally Posted by Human No More

If the group is a factor, then yes.

People don't commit crimes because they are just part of a group. Membership or not, they still make the final decision themselves.

[Leequilibrium]

Originally Posted by Banefull

People don't commit crimes because they are just part of a group. Membership or not, they still make the final decision themselves.

Not always. Many people commit crimes due to peer pressure.

[ZenitYerkes]

Originally Posted by Leequilibrium

Not always. Many people commit crimes due to peer pressure.

In a chavs group, probably.

But in large and more mature groups, I doubt it.

[Banefull]

Originally Posted by Leequilibrium

Not always. Many people commit crimes due to peer pressure.

It is the individual's choice in the end, not the group's.

[caveman]

I stopped watching most news, this being one of the reasons. The media seems to love separating people into little groups and defining them.

Just out of curiosity, where do you guys get your news? Other than Colbert and Stewart, I only really watch one program that I like.

[SaphirJD]

to ban such things from newspapers.. while it would perhaps work somehow is for sure not possible.

Since a big amount of newspaper readers just read papers for their own thriller experience. Since life is mostly boredom, they need to be excited somehow, for sure a reason why newspapers are selling so good.

This is just another Crazy piece of a crazy world.

[Spock]

One thing I find abhorent is how woman are treated in the Islamic faith. I don't want the same disrespect to be perpetuated worldwide, they also reinforce the point of view that all non-muslims should be hated.

This is one thing we can't let happen. The media does overblow and segregate a lot with their reporting but 'never' forget that there are real threats to liberty out there. Threats we need to face head on in order to uphold ethics and morality.

[Banefull]

Originally Posted by The Illusive Man

One thing I find abhorent is how woman are treated in the Islamic faith. I don't want the same disrespect to be perpetuated worldwide, they also reinforce the point of view that all non-muslims should be hated.

This is one thing we can't let happen. The media does overblow and segregate a lot with their reporting but 'never' forget that there are real threats to liberty out there. Threats we need to face head on in order to uphold ethics and morality.

That shows how much the media has kept you blind. Try saying that to someone living in southeast Asia which has more practicioners of Islam than the Middle East (Indonesia especially). They'd be clueless as to what you are talking about. This whole women issue is mainly confined to the Middle East. Its a cultural thing, not religious.

[Spock]

Originally Posted by Banefull

That shows how much the media has kept you blind. Try saying that to someone living in southeast Asia which has more practicioners of Islam than the Middle East (Indonesia especially). They'd be clueless as to what you are talking about. This whole women issue is mainly confined to the Middle East. Its a cultural thing, not religious.

Oh Banefull I really hope you turn out to be right, but I beg to differ. The New Zealand media doesn't perpetuate this view of Islam, the views I present are from my own observations, it happens down the end of my street. Fully clothed woman are everywhere and the police are constantly at their houses, from what seems to be domestic violence issues. Islam is exporting its worst aspects to western civilization.