Anti-RDA movement on Earth?

[Ashen Key]

I'm SURE I read, somewhere, about there being an anti-RDA movement back on Earth (I want to say, the people who leaked the Activist Guide, but I don't own it, so I can hardly check), but I can't find anything on it, or indeed confirmation that it exists.

It's starting to bug me, and may just feature in a fic (at least Speak, Friend, if it exists - and maybe others), and I'd really like to know if it exists (and thus, I don't have to make it up <.< )

So, anyone else know anything, or is it just a figment of my imagination?

[SnowRider]

There are little tidbits of information and hints scattered all throughout the Activist Survival Guide that collectively suggest there is an active anti-RDA movement on Earth, a "Resistance" to the RDA, if you will.

That has some interesting implications for the sequel(s), to say the least.

(and the idea of an anti-RDA "Resistance" figures prominently in my fanfic)

[Ashen Key]

Originally Posted by SnowRider

There are little tidbits of information and hints scattered all throughout the Activist Survival Guide that collectively suggest there is an active anti-RDA movement on Earth, a "Resistance" to the RDA, if you will.

Ooh, good, I didn't make it up. Um, if you don't mind - what KIND of hints? Like I said, I DON"T have the Activist Survival Guide, and it's highly unlikely I'll get my hands on it.

Originally Posted by SnowRider

(and the idea of an anti-RDA "Resistance" figures prominently in my fanfic)

*g* Nice. So far in my ginormous epic, Trudy's younger sister Frankie is being a least a little shifty in regards to what she may or may not be doing against the RDA, hence why I'd like work out what they are up to.

And, LOVEavatar, I'm sure there is still movements like that - hell, particularly with the colonies on Mars and the Moon, you'd get people screaming about not messing up other places.

[Boba Fett]

I'm nearly surprised that there isn't an anti-RDA movement on our Earth right now, inspired by Avatar. There's really no way that an anti-RDA movement doesn't exist on Earth in the Avatar universe.

[Banefull]

Some form of resistance probably exists but I'd imagine its mostly in the form of media and political lobbying.

[LOVEavatar]

But what about all the big environmental organization now days? Green Peace? (You guys probably know more.) I mean... they can't just simply have died out!... can they? There has to be people who fight to pass the message on and on, in hope for it to be of help in the future. People devoted to this do not simply give up.

[Human No More]

There's a lot in the survival guide, but it's never mentioned elsewhere. I hope it will appear in the sequel in some form
They seem to be both supporting the Na'vi and interested in reversing what has happened on Earth.

[Ashen Key]

Originally Posted by Human No More

There's a lot in the survival guide, but it's never mentioned elsewhere. I hope it will appear in the sequel in some form
They seem to be both supporting the Na'vi and interested in reversing what has happened on Earth.

Oh, cool. Um...could you tell me what they seem to DO, according to the guide? Like I said, I'm not joking about the fact that a) I don't have it and b) it's not likely I'll get it anytime soon. But I really am interested, and I can't find ANYTHING on the wiki, and it's driving me a little crazy.

[Human No More]

Most of it is information, there are a few mentions of communication with the Na'vi and/or scientists on Pandora, but no mentions of specific actions taken on Earth.

[Ashen Key]

Originally Posted by Human No More

Most of it is information, there are a few mentions of communication with the Na'vi and/or scientists on Pandora, but no mentions of specific actions taken on Earth.

Annoying about the lack of actions, but hey, more room to make things up. And ooooooooooooooooooooooh on the communiction. Okay, that could work really well for what I have in mind for Speak, Friend. Thanks!

[Empty Glass]

Originally Posted by Human No More

Most of it is information, there are a few mentions of communication with the Na'vi and/or scientists on Pandora, but no mentions of specific actions taken on Earth.

Any idea what sorts of things are being said between the resistance and the Na'vi? Sounds pretty interesting. (Unless I read your post wrong.)

[Tsyal Makto]

I don't think the resistance and the Na'vi have ever communicated. As it sounds in the Survival Guide, it seems like the resistance is trying to bring samples of Pandoran plants back that could be used to heal the environment (as opposed to unobtainium).

[Ashen Key]

Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto

I don't think the resistance and the Na'vi have ever communicated. As it sounds in the Survival Guide, it seems like the resistance is trying to bring samples of Pandoran plants back that could be used to heal the environment (as opposed to unobtainium).

...Oh, this makes me twitch. Introducing foreign wildlife is BAD. So bad. My continent is being ruined by foreign wildlife. How easily they forget.

Originally Posted by Isard

I'm quite interested as to how JC's going to explain the RDA being a maniacal government force when the US is still a global superpower. (ie: the USMC still exists) This is either going to be major retcon or an interesting tale.

Just because the USMC still exists doesn't mean that the US is a superpower. It just means that the US still has their Marines and are using them in battle. Australia uses its soldiers in battle, and we're hardly a superpower.

Originally Posted by Fosus

Maybe WE should start an anti-RDA right now! An organisation against commercial space-exploration.

Whatever we might find from the space, dead rocks or unknown civilisations, greedy shareholders shouldn't be in control of it.

What do you think?

A) we NEED commercial space-exploration if we are to get anywhere - the governments, by and large, aren't that interested, due to the expense. We need companies and things to get involved. The question is just making sure they don't turn out like the RDA. Besides, governments being in control of what we find out in space makes me nervous, too.

B) Shareholders aren't evil. Usually they are just normal people trying to earn some more money and get some more assets. This is not a bad thing. It's simply how one gets by in our culture. If you want to blame something, blame capitalism - not the average citizens trying to get by.

MAJORITY shareholders, now, they can be different. CAN be different. It depends on the context.

[Tsyal Makto]

Originally Posted by Ashen Key

...Oh, this makes me twitch. Introducing foreign wildlife is BAD. So bad. My continent is being ruined by foreign wildlife. How easily they forget.

There's no wildlife to ruin. The only living things left are humans and algea (and maybe cloned zoos, but that's not really wildlife). Anything at that point would be positive.

On commercial space exploration, I'm not against it, but it needs some serious regulation. The RDA is the product of a laissez faire, corporatist, capitalist system that allowed them to rise to their power, and if we continue down the road we are going now, we'll have our own RDA on our hands. In some senses, we already do, several of them.

[Ashen Key]

Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto

There's no wildlife to ruin. The only living things left are humans and algea (and maybe cloned zoos, but that's not really wildlife). Anything at that point would be positive.

I'm still going to twitch - it's an ingrained response. And I think there is more like than that - rats, cats, dogs, various types of bird and other omnivorous things that already live in our cities. Not to mention the kind of plants that can grow in cities (and there wouldn't BE any botany without plants, so if there is no plants, Grace wouldn't be a doctor) or are grown in vertical farms, or on roofs.

And *rubs head* I fail to understand how they think lifeforms FROM ANOTHER PLANET, would help. It's another planet, with logically a very different soil make-up, and a very different atmosphere, and....I'm not sure how that's going to work. They might as well try cloning Earth plants and starting over, at least it's from the same planet.

Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto

On commercial space exploration, I'm not against it, but it needs some serious regulation. The RDA is the product of a laissez faire, corporatist, capitalist system that allowed them to rise to their power, and if we continue down the road we are going now, we'll have our own RDA on our hands. In some senses, we already do, several of them.

I guess my thought is - can we get to space first and protest later? *wry* We're not going to get there at ALL at this point, and there is no point in protesting a problem that doesn't exist. We have mega orporations here, yes (dear America, please sort out the crap that goes down in your own country or originates there, and THEN start to worry about the rest of the world), but they're not involved in space. And if we get commerical space-flights, then it becomes cheaper, and the technology is developed, and we can start having a space age. Which'd be nice.