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11-19-2011, 04:09 AM
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What is paradise to you?
This came up in Clarke's thread, "This is what I want to see", and I'm curious to know what paradise means to everyone. I'm sure I'll get a lot of Pandoras, but what else is there? Do you have more than one ideal for paradise?
I feel like this sort of concerns both this board and the spirituality board depending on the context of the poster, but I put it in here because this one needs new threads 
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11-19-2011, 04:31 AM
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Exactly what you hear and see in this video.
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11-19-2011, 04:41 AM
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There's no such thing, if you define it by perfect, because there's always a way something could be better. Past that, by a far more broad definition, I'd say there are multiple different values - obviously, Pandora, but I'd say that equally so would be an Earth cured of all the problems like overpopulation, superstition and war.
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11-19-2011, 07:21 AM
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I suppose paradise for me would be a place where nature is in unity with its creatures, where people love each other no matter what and where people don't care about trying to be better than anyone else.
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11-19-2011, 12:38 PM
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Paradise to me would have to be Earth, but to the full restoration of it.
Contra to what a lot of people see as paradise (living in a super-utopia where everything is catered for them, and they do not need to do work just to live...) I see it as the tangible side to life. To live in a way in that you are a part of the huge web of life, but you still have to work for yourself to stay there. Esentially the removal of all proxies to life, and being allowed to live with it completely manually.
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11-29-2011, 08:03 PM
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Quote:
Would you rather do something because you must, or because you want to do it? Or should I say that in your case they are both the same, as in you want to do that which must be done, am I right?
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11-19-2011, 04:13 PM
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Paradise for me would be a place where nature was undamaged, violence was a thing of the past, and there was no competition. People would just work for self-fulfillment; that way money wouldn't cause the problems it does today.
Some bioluminescence would be nice, too 
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11-19-2011, 07:04 PM
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I think I'll take Iron Jones' approach, and say it would be what this song does for me
The emotions and images I get from that song would be paradise. But I can't really put them into words. Also, paradise would have bountiful adventure, unspoiled nature, compassionate people, and a life mate.
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"Pardon me, I wanna live in a fantasy" "I wish I was a sacrifice but somehow still lived on" It seems like everybody is moving forward. As if there is some final goal they can achieve and get to. I don't get it though. When I look around, it seems like I'm already there, and there is nothing left to do. "You think you're so clever and classless and free, but you're still ****ing peasants as far as I can see." I wish I could take just one hour of what I experience out in nature, wrap it in a box, put a bow on it, and start handing out to people Nature has its own religion; gospel from the land I know I was born and I know that I'll die; The in between is mine."
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11-19-2011, 07:12 PM
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Compassionate people are what would do it for me; compassion is so few and far between in the world as it is.
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11-25-2011, 08:52 PM
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I think for me paradise would be if there were more people around me who would show some more positive feelings to me, who i could count on and who would take away some work off of me. And sure a better bed, and a big flat for me alone.
I mean this would be for me nearby and realistic, personal and a reallife Paradise at the moment.
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11-25-2011, 08:58 PM
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Hmm, I see/hear music! (on this thread
)What is paradise... The tune from The Beach came to my mind: I'll quote the lyrics. Trust me It's Paradise This is where the hungry come to feed For mine is a generation that circles the globe in search of something we haven't tried before so never refuse an invitation never resist the unfamiliar never fail to be polite and never outstay your welcome just keep your mind open and suck in the experience and if it hurts you know what... it's probably worth it you hope, and you dream but you never believe that something is going to happen for you not like it does in the movies and when it actually does you expect it to feel different more visirale more real i was waiting for it to hit me* i still believe in paradise but now at least i know it's not some place you can look for cause it's not where you go it's how you feel for a moment in your life and if you find that moment it lasts forever it lasts forever lasts forever (fade out) *and it DID! Yes, I am about Avatar again... Here's the video: Beached - Orbital And one more video: it was the music during the scene when (in the movie) they were diving in a lagoon with the water full of bioluminiscent plankton: Spinning Away..The Beach Soundtrack. - YouTube As in the music videos posted above, I'd say "it's the feeling that counts" - a happy, welcome, warm feeling of being in a place you want to be... A short dream to go with it: I was doing something absolutely prosaic, like sorting the papers on the desk, & suddenly everything "swirled", "unfolded", "spinned away" & I was in the swirling pink-purple light like those galaxies in the Spinning Away video (above) altho I only saw light, not separate stars. Of course it reminded me of Pandora & the feeling was this - I loved this place & I wanted to be there. Then I saw myself as a stick figure  , & "a teacher stick figure" who was holding my stick hand motioned ahead & said: "It will be so, so much better" (this is when I remembered Moco Loco "heaven uni" dreams where many teachers are extraterrestrials & some look like stick figures (Moco Loco, correct me if I am mistaken) . I couldn't imagine how it could ever get better 'cos I was already feeling top wonderful - but hey, as some said before, there's no limit to perfection  . It was curious - this mix of images united by one overwhelming feeling of happiness. So I'd say paradise is this.
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11-30-2011, 01:42 AM
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Exactly. The reason that things are available in a non-manual way is to make it available to people who would be unable to access them - the same goes for specialisation, so people skilled at specific things, - manual labour, technological, or design, for example - can do what they are good at and benefit from the skills of others in return. Such a concept predates the bronze age
A lot of this 'anything new is automatically bad' is reactionism.
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