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Old 10-28-2010, 12:07 AM
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And HNM, If the vast mojority of humans are ayskxawng, do you basicly say to hell with the Activists in the Survival Guide along with the rest of the stuppified Human population who are unaware of the turth because the RDA controls what gets out?
Something tells me they aren't the vast majority

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It's the RDA thats the enemy: they have the money to hire the guns to do their dirty work and the they use the Unubtainum they extract for their own profit and nothing else. The RDA has humanity trapped in economic dependency. For the defecters of the RDA, they basicly rebeled ageinst a greedy Corpation that kills for power. They basicly said "Enough's enough."

Also, remember the quote that Neytiri said in the scriptment? "Spirit is all that matters." Jake's sprit is in two bodies and in the end he chose to keep it in the one that he can actualy live in. It doesn't matter if you are born Human or na'vi, Spirt is all that matters.
Yes... but not all humans have that spirit. Some just don't See.
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Old 10-28-2010, 02:08 AM
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Well, there has to be some reason that Eywa chose Jake to be her champion in the fight against the RDA instead of another Na'vi. Clearly SHE thought that the Na'vi could learn something from the Sky People.
^This bears consideration! Here's a thought, when the RDA first arrived, would Eywa not have known how to 'rid' herself, the Na'vi and the planet of this 'virus infection?', or did she need time to figure out, get to know more about these 'sky people' before she choose Jake? Or helped out! I know Neytiri says that Eywa only protects the balance, but still there I think it raises some interesting questions?
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Old 10-28-2010, 12:59 PM
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Learning more about them is certainly plausible (particularly with Jake being a skxawng who would normally have been there as a marine rather than an Avatar driver, but the circumstances allowed him to meet the Na'vi), and it just turned out better than anyone could have hoped
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:56 PM
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Come on, your all missing the point. I started this thread to think about moral values. can you stop with the battle plan stuff?
Well, again I point out that Eywa chose Jake, not another Na'vi. In my opinion it was because Eywa felt that no Na'vi had the necessary qualities needed to win a war against the Sky People. So, perhaps the Na'vi were 'morally superior' to the point that they couldn't wage an all-out war. But this was a war for survival and if the Na'vi couldn't learn how to do that they were doomed. So they needed to learn how to fight--really fight--and they had to learn it from Jake.
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Well, again I point out that Eywa chose Jake, not another Na'vi. In my opinion it was because Eywa felt that no Na'vi had the necessary qualities needed to win a war against the Sky People. So, perhaps the Na'vi were 'morally superior' to the point that they couldn't wage an all-out war. But this was a war for survival and if the Na'vi couldn't learn how to do that they were doomed. So they needed to learn how to fight--really fight--and they had to learn it from Jake.
Excellent point! Eywa also knew that Jake would teach the Na'vi how to make what they had as weapons, work more effectively against the machines of the Sky People. This came after Jakes encounter with the Thanator and the Viper Wolves. Most improtantly, Eywa knew that Jake's soul was in the right place, as he truely wanted to learn about, and help the Na'vi.

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I think that they did learn something about sky people and their relationship with them. They know that humans are capable of love, honor, and courage but they also know how easily corrupted many humans can be. However, the bigotry toward the sky people won't go away for some time. They suffered greatly and the memory of that will scar them for a long time but I think that they learned that there are some sky people who are willing to help and even give up their lives if they have to.

I got the impression reading the survival guide that the humans are in a stupor on earth since the RDA run everything. The activists are resisting the RDA and perhaps that will figure later in the story. I believe that Jake will help them to understand the sky people more. He is still a sky person in soul if not in body. He is the ultimate bridge between the two since he takes what is good and beautiful about both races.
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