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Old 11-25-2010, 11:31 AM
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my professor...Its supposedly a lot better for the environment than this "clean coal"
Oh that is so typical. People will always try to sell you one horrible practive by threatening you with something even more horrible. That way they sell you nuclear power as CO2 free (while it produces waste that is toxic for 1.000.000 years). They sell you the construction of a new road through a national forest as an alternative to cars having to take the longer route and polluting the villages on that route. They sell you the protection of a tiny forest as nature reserve under the threat of cutting down all the forest in the area.
So natural gas is certainly "better" than coal - less CO2, no more mountain top removal and so on. But it is not really a lot better - it is marginally better and even that only if one assumes that fracking can be made safe.

That whole scenario is sarcastic - Cheap and easy coal runs out, so they start mountain top removal and other such atrocities and then they give you a "better" alternative that supposedly is less ****ty as a viable solution?
They deplete the cheap and easy oil and start tar sands mining, destroying landscapes the size of countries - and they offer you biofuels or nuclear power as an alternative?

People always are more likely to subscribe to atrocities if it seems to be in the best interest or if they can prevent worse with it. If someone holds a gun to your head, of course you will give him your wallet - loosing the money in it is a lot "better" than being murdered.

But in the end, we all know that the mountains will still be mined eventually and the tar sand will be dug up eventually - no matter if people start fracking the planet to get natural gas now or not. If the dominant culture is allowed to, they will continue to extract every last coalseam, every last drop of oil and every bubble of natural gas they can get their hands on. And as a definite sign of peak oil theory in action, the complexity and cost and destruction created by the exploitation of "unconventional sources" is exploding in our faces. I am really sick of this! This robbery is not conducted by a sane person who uses force only to drive people to accept the "lesser evil", there is no question that the "bigger evil" will also follow. It is a robbery by a psychopath followed by murder. That's what it is. Did I mention that I am really sick of this!
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