Wikileaks

[Human No More]

Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto

Nothing that we learned through the leaks are things that people with the power to create world war don't already know. Might as well we learn the truth so we're not caught off guard when the SHTF. The only reason the media is having such a tizzy is because they are trying to protect their own interests.

Interesting...

Is the Crackdown on Wikileaks and Threats of Julian Assange's Arrest Exactly What He Was Planning? | Media and Culture | AlterNet

I must say, if this is true, then this is even better than the leaks themselves. Pure genius.

Brilliant

This is exactly why I'm following this so closely. Most of what's actually been leaked has been of relatively little consequence - it was things that the majority of the world suspected, just now they are in official documents. On the other hand, the reaction was really not something I was expecting.

[Isard]

I do not like this. So far, documents revealed have simply been embarrassing, but future revelations could start costing the US money and possibly lives if sensitive data gets out. (Funny, seems all their major "leaks" have to do with the US, don't tell me other governments don't have secrets...)

[Советский меч]

Despite what many think wikileaks has hardly scratched the surface as far as classified information goes.
There are some things that dont need to be covered up. But when it deals with national security people should just move on and not cry because they dont get to know every single thing thats going on. If your that worried about it. Join the CIA and get security clearance.

[Sight Unseen]

Problem, Government?

Government is government, and that will never change. The people put honourable people in power and those in power either get corrupted or are replaced by corrupted people. Then there comes the need for secrecy so that they can hide that the government is no longer working for the people's interests, but the government's.

IMHO, in a perfect world, the government's sites should be the ones under DDoS, not WikiLeaks. Anyone else here ever had the urge to buy rack space just to DDoS someone?

[Spock]

Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto

gate......

Ah, the legacy of Richard Milhouse Nixon. I love politics.

Stargate programme anyone?

[Raptor]

I view wikileaks as unreliable. I don't know if everything they are saying is true, and since they are at the forefront of controversy, I pay some attention to its reports, but I don't view it as truth until I can get verification.

[Human No More]

Originally Posted by Sight Unseen

Problem, Government?

Government is government, and that will never change. The people put honourable people in power and those in power either get corrupted or are replaced by corrupted people. Then there comes the need for secrecy so that they can hide that the government is no longer working for the people's interests, but the government's.

IMHO, in a perfect world, the government's sites should be the ones under DDoS, not WikiLeaks. Anyone else here ever had the urge to buy rack space just to DDoS someone?

Well said

I agree that some things should remain secret, where absolutely necessary, but things like this stop governments getting complacent and doing/saying things behind people's backs, so to speak. Plus, as mentioned before, this is a HUGE reveal of just how authoritarian so many governments are, which should hopefully wake more people up

[Fosus]

I agree that every governments secrets should be revealed. This planet belongs to all of us, not some secret clubs.

[Советский меч]

Originally Posted by AC130StandingBy

I view wikileaks as unreliable. I don't know if everything they are saying is true, and since they are at the forefront of controversy, I pay some attention to its reports, but I don't view it as truth until I can get verification.

I completely agree. It could very well be a side project by the government to give gullable people the illusion that they are getting to see secret pentagon files so they will feel better about it.

[Советский меч]

Originally Posted by Fosus

I agree that every governments secrets should be revealed. This planet belongs to all of us, not some secret clubs.

What if these secrets could start a nuclear war?? But hey as long as we know right?

[ZenitYerkes]

Originally Posted by Советский медве

What if these secrets could start a nuclear war?? But hey as long as we know right?

Hey, at least I'd like to know why I'm going to be blown up.

[Fosus]

Secrets could start a nuclear war.. how ?

Someone gets jealous or pissed ?

Lol

[LOVEavatar]

Originally Posted by Fosus

Secrets could start a nuclear war.. how ?

Someone gets jealous or pissed ?

Lol

One thing in particular I thought of today was; While the British army fought the Nazis in Europe, USA was in no interest of being involved in the fight while they were busy fighting the Japanese. What we have heard in the history lessons, is that an American passenger ferry that was on it's way to Europe, got sunken by torpedoes from a submarine (sources claiming it was marked with the Nazi cross) Now, it has been talked about (what I've heard) that just that submarine was actually a british one! just marked with the Nazi cross to fool the americans, giving them a reason to join the war against the Nazis in Europe and helping the Britians! If anything of this every gets out (if it's true) ... I believe USA would be mighty pissed off

Anyone else heard about this? Or am I completely off the road...

[Fosus]

Originally Posted by LOVEavatar

One thing in particular I thought of today was; While the British army fought the Nazis in Europe, USA was in no interest of being involved in the fight while they were busy fighting the Japanese. What we have heard in the history lessons, is that an American passenger ferry that was on it's way to Europe, got sunken by torpedoes from a submarine (sources claiming it was marked with the Nazi cross) Now, it has been talked about (what I've heard) that just that submarine was actually a british one! just marked with the Nazi cross to fool the americans, giving them a reason to join the war against the Nazis in Europe and helping the Britians! If anything of this every gets out (if it's true) ... I believe USA would be mighty pissed off

Anyone else heard about this? Or am I completely off the road...

USA would get pissed because they are expected to. But I don't believe they get too mad about it. It's been 70 years and wars are meaningless.

[Советский меч]

Originally Posted by Fosus

Secrets could start a nuclear war.. how ?

Someone gets jealous or pissed ?

Lol

You havent a clue.