Status Quo and the Alternatives

[ZenitYerkes]

Originally Posted by Banefull

You can agree by coincidence but do you think everyone is going to agree? An anarchy would be quite a homogenious society with everyone having the exact same set of ideas.

Not actually. You can keep your own interests -agreeing works by taking the others' in count too.

[Banefull]

Originally Posted by ZenitYerkes

Not actually. You can keep your own interests -agreeing works by taking the others' in count too.

So I have to reach an agreement? I disagree.

If I reach an agreement with someone else, doesn't he or she now have some power over my life? I am doing part of their will insetad of mine.

[ZenitYerkes]

Originally Posted by Banefull

So I have to reach an agreement? I disagree.

If I reach an agreement with someone else, doesn't he or she now have some power over my life. I am doing part of their will insetad of mine.

That's interdependence, hey; it's the minimal level of interaction between human beings; but as I said, anarchy has the plus of also working individually. So, if you want to leave, go.

[Banefull]

Originally Posted by ZenitYerkes

That's interdependence, hey; it's the minimal level of interaction between human beings;

So if anarchy is the social state in which there is no governing person or group of people, but each individual has absolute liberty, then so long as we make agreements with other human beings, there is no such thing as anarchy.

[ZenitYerkes]

Originally Posted by Banefull

So if anarchy is the social state in which there is no governing person or group of people, but each individual has absolute liberty, then so long as we make agreements with other human beings, there is no such thing as anarchy.

Ermmm... Nope. And by that definition, there has never been anarchy or freedom.

What I mean is that you can choose with whom to make bonds, with whom to share your life and with whom to collaborate. Or not at all. The case is that there are no limits but the natural ones.

"Nobody commanding" means "Nobody telling me "do this, or else!"", not "Nobody speaking of making something together". That's just being asocial.

[Banefull]

Originally Posted by ZenitYerkes

What I mean is that you can choose with whom to make bonds, with whom to share your life and with whom to collaborate. Or not at all. The case is that there are no limits but the natural ones.

You already have the power to make all of these decisions. No one can truly stop you.

[ZenitYerkes]

Originally Posted by Banefull

You already have the power to make all of these decisions. No one can truly stop you.

I know one who can.

It's called the State, and there's one in eeeevery corner of the world.