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[Advent]

Here's something to think of: was Cameron right?
I mean, when he said the Thanator could eat the Queen Alien and the Tyrannosaurus Rex for dinner and desert respectively?

Also, how would the other Pandorans fare against the creatures of Earth's prime? Well? Badly? And of course, we can discuss the equivalents of each biosphere, and similarities or differences to each other.
For example, the trees of the Jurassic era seem rather familiar, no?


Note: this ain't a debate or flame thread. It's a discussion, both for knowledge, and some enjoyment.


..and I'm just putting it out here, but the Thanator couldn't eat the Queen Alien. Acidic blood.

[Raiden]

A Thanator...I dunno.

A T. Rex, if it grabbed one by the ribs, might be able to crush it to death. I'd be more interested in a Thanator vs. a Triceratops or a Stegosaurus, or maybe an Anklyodon.

The most interesting one to me would be a Gigantosaurus vs. a Toruk.

[Advent]

Originally Posted by Raiden

A T. Rex, if it grabbed one by the ribs, might be able to crush it to death. I'd be more interested in a Thanator vs. a Triceratops or a Stegosaurus, or maybe an Anklyodon.

The most interesting one to me would be a Gigantosaurus vs. a Toruk.

Would be quite interesting to watch all of them. A Gigantosaurus vs a Toruk would definitely be something though.

To be honest, Tyrannosaurus' aren't too appealing to me. Now these are scary:
Spinosaurus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Compared to a T-Rex:

Red: Spinosaurus. Grey: Carcharodontosaurus. Orange: Gigantosaurus. Green: ...T-Rex.

And apparently, they were more aggressive. And honestly, they do look pretty evil:

[caveman]

I love dinosaurs. I wish I could have one to ride around on. Go exploring.

Anyways, the world of Pandora is very interesting. It very much has the Jurassic wildlife - diverse and deadly animals and mysterious plants. It would be cool seeing some of these animals go toe to toe.

[Ashen Key]

Well, the T-Rex actually lived in the Cretaceous...

[Pa'li Makto]

I think that Earth during the time of the Dinosaurs would be amazing, all the plants would be at least 3 times bigger then what they are now.
If only we could all go back in time, perhaps develop a tribal society similar to the Na'vi and maybe eventually we could ride and work alongside dinosaurs. I really like the Velociraptor and the Allosaurus. One thing I'm thinking though, since this is before the ice age, I have a suspicion that the composition of the air on earth then would be different then now, maybe we might not be able to breathe properly if we could time travel back to that period.

[Advent]

Originally Posted by Ashen Key

Well, the T-Rex actually lived in the Cretaceous...

Ah. Smart.

I suppose then this applies to just the 'Age of Dinosaurs'.

@Pa'li: An interesting topic to think about. Maybe that's how the dinosaurs came about...
Here's a thought. What if we possibly went back in time and saw our very first ancestors? 0_0

I wonder how the Na'vi would fare here, 100 million years ago.

[Ashen Key]

Originally Posted by Advent

Ah. Smart.

I suppose then this applies to just the 'Age of Dinosaurs'.

It's a common mistake! But, yeah.

And apparently the T-Rexes lived in family units, so you'd have the mum and the dad, and the kids (given it'd take, what, ten years for the youngsters to grow to full size, as far as I'm aware), so I don't know. I think a family of t-rexes could give the solitary thanator a run for its money.

Or maybe a pack of Deinonychus (a.k.a. the raptors from the Jurassic movies, given actual Velociraptor were much, much smaller).

But you'd probably want something that could also use its arms more, which does rule out the T-Rex - T-Rex has a terrible bite, both in power (could crush a car) and as a biohazard (rotting meat in the teeth with all that bacteria = fatal bite, like the komodo dragons), but probably not agile enough on its feet.

*likes dinosaurs ? *

[Pa'li Makto]

Hehe a family of T-Rex
I've always liked dinosaurs. How cool would it be to ride a pterodactyl?
I don't think the Na'vi would fare well, for one thing the difference in the atmosphere between Pandora and Earth and I think the Na'vi might be hindered by our gravity. Plus, they would be a big target for a dinosaur.

[Ashen Key]

Originally Posted by Pa'li Makto

Hehe a family of T-Rex
I've always liked dinosaurs. How cool would it be to ride a pterodactyl?
I don't think the Na'vi would fare well, for one thing the difference in the atmosphere between Pandora and Earth and I think the Na'vi might be hindered by our gravity. Plus, they would be a big target for a dinosaur.

Well, given the humans seem hardly hindered by the change of gravity (and I can't actually see a difference in gravity, anywhere in the movie, I'm guessing the difference actually isn't that great), the Na'vi would probably be fine once they adjusted. And the difference in atmosphere would probably only matter if they need the extra stuff in it - we don't actually need what is most in OUR atmosphere, given most of our atmosphere is nitrogen.

[Advent]

Originally Posted by Ashen Key

Or maybe a pack of Deinonychus (a.k.a. the raptors from the Jurassic movies, given actual Velociraptor were much, much smaller).

I loled when I found out how small velociraptors were.
There are quite a few dinosaurs (unknown to most people) which are similar to the Jurassic Park movies though. Australia had the Rapator.

Originally Posted by Ashen Key

But you'd probably want something that could also use its arms more, which does rule out the T-Rex - T-Rex has a terrible bite, both in power (could crush a car) and as a biohazard (rotting meat in the teeth with all that bacteria = fatal bite, like the komodo dragons), but probably not agile enough on its feet.

*likes dinosaurs ? *

*Also likes dinosaurs*

Apparently though, the T-Rex (like all theropods) was built for strong speed. Not sure about it's agility, but I'd say it could go maybe 50km maximum.
And yes, it's jaws could crush a thanator's head easily. Read somewhere it could exert 25'000 lbs of force through it's jaws.

Also, for reference: theories about the Tyrannosaurus being a scavenger are pure speculation. Several wounds on other skeletons were inflicted by T-Rex's (while still alive) and it's arms may have likely been used to hold struggling prey.

For all we know, it's part scavenger, part predator.

[Ashen Key]

Originally Posted by Advent

*Also likes dinosaurs*

Apparently though, the T-Rex (like all theropods) was built for strong speed. Not sure about it's agility, but I'd say it could go maybe 50km maximum.
And yes, it's jaws could crush a thanator's head easily. Read somewhere it could exert 25'000 lbs of force through it's jaws.

Oh, absolutely, I was thinking more about AGILITY rather than speed - two legged, unable to have much reach with arms, vs a six-legged creature...

Originally Posted by Advent

Also, for reference: theories about the Tyrannosaurus being a scavenger are pure speculation. Several wounds on other skeletons were inflicted by T-Rex's (while still alive) and it's arms may have likely been used to hold struggling prey.

For all we know, it's part scavenger, part predator.

Most predators tend to scavenge when they can - hunting requires energy, which requires more food. But, yeah, I think they did both.

[Pa'li Makto]

I remember a quote by Quaritch: "This low gravity'll make you soft. And when you get soft, Pandora will eat you and **** you out dead with zero warning." I'm sure the Na'vi would be hindered, due to both the higher gravity since they are higher off the ground with relatively long torsos compared with most bipedal terran animals, and the lower air pressure. They'd be unable to live as active as on Pandora.

However, due to the smaller size, its gravity is 20% less than Earth's. Due to Pandora's lower gravity, most creatures on Pandora are hexapods (six-legged), although the Na'vi resemble humans and have only two legs.

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[Ashen Key]

Originally Posted by Pa'li Makto

I remember a quote by Quaritch: "This low gravity'll make you soft. And when you get soft, Pandora will eat you and **** you out dead with zero warning." I'm sure the Na'vi would be hindered, due to both the higher gravity, and the lower air pressure. They'd be unable to live as active as on Pandora.

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Yes, I know. But we never see the supposed lower gravity. So, logically, although the humans might feel it, but it doesn't really affect them that much. Enough to slightly lessen the effort needed to lift things (and don't forget, Quaritch is former Marine, very macho, so his perspective is probably a little skewed), but easily adaptable to.

So, yes, the Na'vi would be a little affected, but they'd probably be able to adapt fairly well. Not their natural habitat, no, but they aren't being placed on the Moon.

[Advent]

I would agree though that the lower air pressure might be a problem :/

Effects:

Might not be by that much though, but then, the Na'vi would need more air then Humans.