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Old 03-02-2011, 10:00 PM
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Rougly 2 cents worth of personal opinion on the matter:
No-one has the right to tell anyone what they are or are not allowed to do to themselves. Thus, I think all drugs should be legal for recreational purposes. I'm not sure why it needs to be more complicated than that.

And for the record: I have never and will never use any chemical drugs, including but not limited to nicotine, ethanol and caffeine (except what little can be found in tea).

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Old 03-02-2011, 10:30 PM
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Rougly 2 cents worth of personal opinion on the matter:
No-one has the right to tell anyone what they are or are not allowed to do to themselves. Thus, I think all drugs should be legal for recreational purposes. I'm not sure why it needs to be more complicated than that.

And for the record: I have never and will never use any chemical drugs, including but not limited to nicotine, ethanol and caffeine (except what little can be found in tea).
Its not just that its what they do to themselves, it ruins families and lives. It causes deaths and suicides.
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:37 PM
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Its not just that its what they do to themselves, it ruins families and lives. It causes deaths and suicides.
I guess. Then again, so does ethanol and world of warcraft. Should they be banned?
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:44 PM
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There was someone at my school talking about drugs. He had no evidence to prove Marijuana is dangerous, so he just made up a story about a man who had gone mad smoking it. And he had told a different story about the same man to each class. LOL.

The more research I do, the more acceptance Marijuana gains in my mind. I actually want to try it now. I have never had this feeling towards alcohol or tobacco anyways, they are bad ninat.

EDIT: WTF at the ninat? I typed ninat.
EDIT2: ... ah, a new scensoring thingy...

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Old 03-02-2011, 10:46 PM
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There was someone at my school talking about drugs. He had no evidence to prove Marijuana is dangerous, so he just made up a story about a man who had gone mad smoking it. And he had told a different story about the same man to each class. LOL.

The more research I do, the more acceptance Marijuana gains in my mind. I actually want to try it now. I have never had this feeling towards alcohol or tobacco anyways, they are bad ninat.

EDIT: WTF at the ninat? I typed ninat.
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Although I'm not sure I like the implication that Ninat = feces.

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Old 03-02-2011, 11:00 PM
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I don,t do or like the stuff my self, but one person's buiness is their own, and if they do it in their own place, what ever, I am not the police, but if it interfers with my lifestyle then there is a problem. I lived in a building that was full of welfare and they about 60% of them did it..... I am paying them thru taxes to do this.NO! I do belive it can be an entry drug to some. Where there is drugs, crime goes in hand with it. They will feed their habit at any cost.(NOT all people.) In life I guess you will have to take everything as an individual case, by case.
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Old 03-02-2011, 11:46 PM
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The current cost of the war on drugs:

Drug War Clock | DrugSense

Now take a look at this:

If Marijuana Production Were Legal: Projected Tax Revenues, by State | Sloshspot Blog

$7,098,100,000 in debt so far this year.

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$778,200,000 in revenue.

Now, personal liberty issues aside (what the P&T video was about), this seems pretty lucrative, no? And I thought Americans were bitching about the debt? Well, the solution seems pretty clear to me.
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:12 AM
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No Tsyal, we're not about fixing deficits, we're about spending money on OUR projects while hampering THEIR projects. Silly old bear...
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:37 AM
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I guess. Then again, so does ethanol and world of warcraft. Should they be banned?
No, this isn't even close to true. It is completely wrong to say a TV addiction or a video game addiction is the same as an alcohol or illegal drug addiction. Now, before I go on, I want to clarify: addiction, when the user cannot control themselves anymore, and has completely relies to the substance.

A tv or video game addiction doesn't cause someone to drive while intoxicated, and kill other people, or ruin other people's lives. There is no illegal tv or video game trade. There aren't people dying daily to a "TV war" like there are in the drug wars.

And, tv and video game states can only reach the mental state. Yes, they can ruin someone's life, but are also a lot less likely to. A drug addiction or alcohol addiction can cause a physical addiction, where the body begins to shut down, and have serious dangerous side effect when it doesn't receive the substance it is addicted to.

A tv or video game addiction has a much smaller chance of ruining one life, or messing up a family. Illegal drugs cause death everyday, have started drug wars, and are [I]a lot[I] more likely to cause problems.

ps: I would support the legalization of marijuana, and would agree that if it is used properly it can have a positive effect on one's life, if they are very careful in how they use it. I however do not use it.
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Old 03-03-2011, 02:37 PM
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No, this isn't even close to true. It is completely wrong to say a TV addiction or a video game addiction is the same as an alcohol or illegal drug addiction. Now, before I go on, I want to clarify: addiction, when the user cannot control themselves anymore, and has completely relies to the substance.

A tv or video game addiction doesn't cause someone to drive while intoxicated, and kill other people, or ruin other people's lives. There is no illegal tv or video game trade. There aren't people dying daily to a "TV war" like there are in the drug wars.

And, tv and video game states can only reach the mental state. Yes, they can ruin someone's life, but are also a lot less likely to. A drug addiction or alcohol addiction can cause a physical addiction, where the body begins to shut down, and have serious dangerous side effect when it doesn't receive the substance it is addicted to.

A tv or video game addiction has a much smaller chance of ruining one life, or messing up a family. Illegal drugs cause death everyday, have started drug wars, and are [I]a lot[I] more likely to cause problems.

ps: I would support the legalization of marijuana, and would agree that if it is used properly it can have a positive effect on one's life, if they are very careful in how they use it. I however do not use it.
I take it you think alcohol consumption for recreational purposes should be illegal, then?
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Old 03-04-2011, 02:25 AM
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I take it you think alcohol consumption for recreational purposes should be illegal, then?
Not really sure how you got that from my argument? I see no problem with recreational alcohol, or marijuana. Both can definitely be used without any harm. I would support the legalization of marijuana. I merely argued that a video game, or v addiction is not nearly as devastating as a alcohol or drug addiction. And I also tried to clarify that I meant addiction, as in where it has began to take over your life, and you have started to make decisions which endanger others because of the substance.

I hope that clarifies somewhat, I was just strongly against the idea that a tv or video game addiction can be compared to a drug or alcohol addiction.


ps: I probably wouldn't support the legalization of some drugs such as cocaine or heroin however, because (unless someone can show me people to prove me wrong. Which I very well could be wrong) I think those drugs are too powerful to exercise a proper amount of self control, to keep the individual user from entering situations in which they endanger others.
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Old 03-27-2011, 12:36 PM
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rapunzel77: yeah I never attempted to grow any, but it's my understanding that most of the stuff nowadays is grown under strong UV lights and lost of chemicals in the soil, so it has a lot more THC per gram than it would ever have grown the 'natural way'.

ZenitYerkes: it slows you down man
Hi everybody, I come from holland and we have the strongest weed there is, I am older then most of you and when I take a zip I need to sit down, cause it`s to strong for me.
It was a long time ago I was a regular user,Now I don`t drink or smoke and it was at least 20 yrs ago that I bought my daily stash.
Only on party`s I take a zip but I never buy, sometimes when I in thailand, I have few thai friends and we smoke few spliffs, it soft(you can behave normally), makes you stoned and it is nice to smoke, not to sharp, I love it.
But NEVER buy from strangers in Thailand, they can be police and they dont make difference between hard and softdrugs.
You can end up in jail for a long time.

If you can get columbian or nigerian weed it will be fine to, as long it has grown the natural way and the THC has not been pushed up.
You keep remembering things the rest of your life and your mind will not be messed up.
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Old 03-28-2011, 06:07 AM
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Old 03-28-2011, 11:54 PM
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i just happened to be listening to this when scrolling down to see this thread







has anyone ever played the Avatar Game while high? i tried this last night and although playing the game was nothign special (i just didn't recognize any of the levels at all, usually i know exactly where i am) when i closed my eyes i would get a screenshot of where i was at and the environment would "come to life"...it was awesome. i know this isn't place for sharing stories but i didn't know where else to ask this and i want to know if anyone has had similar expiriences with the Avatar game or anything Avatar related
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Old 06-14-2011, 03:27 PM
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Bringing up an old topic

I'm really convinced about the excellence of cannabis for medical use. It's a good painkiller, it seems to help everything from acne to asthma, MS and Cancer... plus it's not poisonous like many medicines for the latter diseases. Weird how it's rarely used.

I'm sure medicine industry lobbyists will make sure it isn't going to be legal any time soon, though.

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