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Old 08-08-2011, 07:18 AM
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LOL i was watching avatar ...again.... and i looked at grace and realized she didnt have a navi nose.

every other avatar or navi have a thick wide nose except for grace

any one else see that? any reasons why?
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Old 08-08-2011, 07:47 AM
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I always notice it now. I'm sure there was a discussion on here way back where we came to the conclusion that it was because Grace's Avatar was made when the technology wasn't as great as when Jake and Norm had theirs. So basically Grace's Avatar is an earlier version.
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Old 08-08-2011, 08:01 AM
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^ This

Hers was an earlier version, thus the reason for the more human like features.
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Old 08-08-2011, 11:36 PM
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It seems to be partially based on genetics too - Norm's nose is pointy-ish, but not as much as Grace's.
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:25 AM
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Older Avatar, so more human like features.

She's very GRACEFUL! BA DUM TS!
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I would think it's more genetic than anything. After all, what's the difference between an older version and a newer version? Are newer versions more athletic or practical for any reason? Is the link to the user stronger? Grace, leading the avatar program, has loads of other avatars depending on her for various reasons, lots of responsibility. If there are newer models, it seems like she'd upgrade. I know it's insanely expensive, but it's her job.
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Old 08-09-2011, 03:32 AM
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Newer versions probably wouldn't have the best mix of human/Na'vi DNA for the expression of Na'vi features. Here's a link to a thread I found on Avatar Forums:
Why does Grace's avatar have a human nose?
I don't think Avatar Drivers have the option to upgrade, they'd have to start over again from scratch and that would take 5-6 years.
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Well, she was there for more than 5 or 6 years, so I can't say it would surprise me if she had.
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Well, she was there for more than 5 or 6 years, so I can't say it would surprise me if she had.
At the millions of dollars that it'd cost to make a new one? I'd be really surprised if the RDA would waste that much money, given the body she has works perfectly well and the changes are purely cosmetic.
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Old 08-09-2011, 07:42 AM
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At the millions of dollars that it'd cost to make a new one? I'd be really surprised if the RDA would waste that much money, given the body she has works perfectly well and the changes are purely cosmetic.
Exactly, plus the Avatar Wiki: quoting something from the Avatar game says that the costs to produce an avatar are 5 billion dollars..Not easy to justify producing.
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Old 08-09-2011, 11:52 AM
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Older Avatar, so more human like features.

She's very GRACEFUL! BA DUM TS!
i lol'd

but yeah, older Avatar so the human traits were dominant. today i learnt of a thing called variable expresitivity so maybe thats what the human/na'vi features were goverend by
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At the millions of dollars that it'd cost to make a new one? I'd be really surprised if the RDA would waste that much money, given the body she has works perfectly well and the changes are purely cosmetic.
If it's really ONLY purely cosmetic, then I agree, but if the newer version(s) are better in any other way, it would be beneficial for her to get a new one. Even to look more like them (given, more in her past than at present) would be an advantage in trying to get them to trust her.
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Personally, I think she uses the same version as everyone else; Sigourney Weaver just leaks through.
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As mentioned above it was an earlier version. They probably had to keep the Human/Na'vi mix closer to Human earlier in the game, and the more practiced they got with it the closer to Na'vi they could make the Avatars.

And if Grace could of upgraded, which would be very expensive. Would she want to? All the Na'vi she taught, she met would know her by the way she currently looked. If she got a new Avatar, all her Na'vi friends wouldn't recognize her and she might have a hard time convicing some of them it was really her.

Also she could have grown attached to it and not just throw it out when the next best one comes in.
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Old 08-09-2011, 09:28 PM
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What about the period in her life where all the na'vi she knew completely distrusted her? She could have taken on a new avatar for a new beginning. A new, new beginning
It's shifty, I know, but the whole operation is pretty shifty. Even Jake is shifty for most of the movie, and he brought about the end of the human occupancy.

Getting off topic here, but what I'm saying is, it's not impossible for this to have happened, and imo I think it could be genetics. That is all.
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