The activists on earth. Qs that I need answered plz.

[Clarke]

Originally Posted by Cyvaris

True, true. But then again Jake and Co would be limited by the same bandwidth issues as well(unless Pandora has a really strong ansible). Either way it degenerates into a shouting match between the to.

I thought the idea was that Jake & co. use a conventional radio signal. (Ignoring the power required to send such a signal)

[Human No More]

Originally Posted by Cyvaris

They have ansibles on the ISS Venture Star so Selfridge and the remaining military would be able to transmit their own spin on things pretty quickly. It would basically end up as a "he said she said" situation. It would really come down to how the public feels. There would definitely be a "revolution" going on the question would just be how large.

Nope.
Not enough bandwidth.

Anyway, even if so (which isn't right for the reasons above), look at history - modern history at that. Read up on the Streisand effect.

Originally Posted by Cyvaris

True, true. But then again Jake and Co would be limited by the same bandwidth issues as well(unless Pandora has a really strong ansible). Either way it degenerates into a shouting match between the to.

Also downloading footage of the attack over that type of link....would take a very, very long time. Trust me. On GOOD days I get maybe 80kb download rate. I am STILL trying to download a HD version on Game of Thrones...its 20gbs and has been going for about three days now.

The 3bit/hr IS Pandora's 'ansible'. I already said that the scientists aren't limited by time, so they can send it at light speed if necessary - 4.4 years to arrive is a LOT faster than an ISV.

[Pa'li Makto]

That's a very good point. I think that's the only way that the activists got their information.

[Tsyal Makto]

I like to picture them more like the Underground in Equilibrium. Or maybe even the Resistence in Half Life 2.

[Human No More]

Considering their use (bringing workers across the world so as to avoid hiring more expensive workers locally), the loss of that ability (which would not happen as Unobtainium is not a fuel) would actually improve things from the perspective of anyone who doesn't work for the RDA under a specific area.
Even so, all that would happen was that they would be very limited in further expansion. Where's the problem exactly?

Unobtainium is not fuel. Earth has HUGE amounts of electrical energy available, which is used as the actual energy source.
Again, I would point you to StarDestroyer.Net BBS • View topic - Avatar Military ****ers Read This First .

Again. EVEN IF there were other extrasolar presences, no unobtainium means you can not build more ISVs at the same efficiency of use (not not not at all, either). Unobtainium is not fuel. Is is not the structural material that makes ISV construction possible. It is not oxygen, or water either.

[Ashen Key]

Originally Posted by Human No More

Considering their use (bringing workers across the world so as to avoid hiring more expensive workers locally), the loss of that ability (which would not happen as Unobtainium is not a fuel) would actually improve things from the perspective of anyone who doesn't work for the RDA under a specific area.
Even so, all that would happen was that they would be very limited in further expansion. Where's the problem exactly?

Unobtainium is not fuel. Earth has HUGE amounts of electrical energy available, which is used as the actual energy source.
Again, I would point you to StarDestroyer.Net BBS • View topic - Avatar Military ****ers Read This First .

Again. EVEN IF there were other extrasolar presences, no unobtainium means you can not build more ISVs at the same efficiency of use (not not not at all, either). Unobtainium is not fuel. Is is not the structural material that makes ISV construction possible. It is not oxygen, or water either.

Never said it was a fuel. Said it was used in the maglev trains. Which is stated in the ASG. You need superconductors for the maglev trains to work. Not only transporting people, but also goods, and supplies.

I tend to think that those things are important. Bad things happen when the transport of food is disrupted.

[Human No More]

Originally Posted by Ashen Key

Never said it was a fuel. Said it was used in the maglev trains. Which is stated in the ASG. You need superconductors for the maglev trains to work. Not only transporting people, but also goods, and supplies.

I tend to think that those things are important. Bad things happen when the transport of food is disrupted.

Yes, and if the supply is cut off, then they can't expand further, but they do not spontaneously stop working. That isn't a problem, particularly when they aren't used for food. Food is grown over the majority of the oceans, which everyone but the very richest people eat.