The RDA strikes back?

[Advent]

Originally Posted by Human No More

Coming back in a realistic capacity is VERY different from a troll thread like this one about 'invasion'.

Perhaps. But making a completely realistic movie doesn't make it better.

[Moco Loco]

Originally Posted by Human No More

Coming back in a realistic capacity is VERY different from a troll thread like this one about 'invasion'.

You throw that word around a lot. I hardly see how this can be called a "troll" thread.

[Niri Te]

You forget that there is a GLOBAL NETWORK of these trees, any Na'vi that tied into a tree of voices, would instantly know.

Originally Posted by Woodsprite

Wow... more intelligent? They fell for the avatar program at first, tried to attack a strike force of 15 samsons and a dragon gunship from the ground with arrows, charged point-blank heavy gunfire with nothing but direhorses, trusted a former marine who was gathering intel for their enemy...

The humans landed in one small area of Pandora, and they've only occupied the area for about 25 years. Jake and the Omaticaya traveled a few hundred miles at most to notify other clans to come to their aid. Then there's the rest of the entire moon to think about, where humans never traveled, and where the Na'vi were never notified by Jake and the Omaticaya about their predicament. The other distant clans are unaware that the humans ever landed. How would they know?

The RDA, at one point in time, had to have set up Hell's Gate on Pandora. They did this with precision and patience, and at that time, the Na'vi were probably more curious than hostile. If the RDA were to start from square one again, landing on a different area of the moon, far away from Hell's Gate, and repeated the same task (only doing it multiple times instead of one) among other clans who had no idea what happened with the Omaticaya, they could very well take over the moon... That is, if Eywa doesn't recognize who they are in these other areas. Chances are, it will, which will make the process much more difficult... but still possible. Eywa acted when there was an emergency at the last minute, which could imply that she's a benign force up to the point of extreme measures.

As far as whether or not the Na'vi need technology, I agree. As their lifestyle dictates, they don't need tech. But if threatened by a massive force of trained soldiers with full firepower (considering how their small strike force of about 50 samsons and a dragon gunship defeated 2000 Na'vi warriors), the Na'vi cannot withstand them without combining human weapons tech with every able fighter, along with Eywa. That's the only possible way they could defeat the humans if threatened by such an immense force... as far as I see it, at least, not to say my opinion is the be-all, end-all, word and the way.

And don't forget, as far as we know, the main commanders in the battle were using coms. That was human technology.

[Niri Te]

If he is in it, in ANY capacity, I won't be watching the sequels, what IS this, "play fight is over, every get up, and we will see you here tomorrow? Then you might as well bring back Natiri's Sister as well.
I will find out from friends, who was "magically resurrected" and if it's too many people that should be dead and rotting in the ground, I will just revel in the storyline of Avatar one, and be done with it.

Originally Posted by Clarke

Stephen himself thinks there's something planned.
Sigourney Weaver Returning for Avatar 2? - ComingSoon.net

[Niri Te]

What I want to know, is what is going to happen in twelve years when a Armada of Terran spacecraft show up in Pandoran orbit, with orders to use Vapor bombs to wipe out all life on the surface of the planet, and strip it bare of it's minerals at all costs. Due to the overpopulation of Earth, losing a couple of million soldiers in waves of Suicide attacks during the take over of Pandora will actually be a good thing in the minds of those that pull the strings back on Earth. In their minds, it would mean far less mouths to feed.
Jake and the others are either going to have to transform the Na'vi into a technological Defense Force, from the Stone Age Clans that they are now, or Eywa will have to interviene again, and fry the inbound armada to the last ship, with a high energy plasma wave from a local star that she causes to go supernova as they pass it. Then, as it falls through itself becoming a black hole, the remaining "space junk" is pulled into the black hole forever. How's THAT for an ending with "Hellfire and damnation" spiritual overtones??

[Crickett]

Originally Posted by taylorcraftbc65

What I want to know, is what is going to happen in twelve years when a Armada of Terran spacecraft show up in Pandoran orbit, with orders to use Vapor bombs to wipe out all life on the surface of the planet, and strip it bare of it's minerals at all costs. Due to the overpopulation of Earth, losing a couple of million soldiers in waves of Suicide attacks during the take over of Pandora will actually be a good thing in the minds of those that pull the strings back on Earth. In their minds, it would mean far less mouths to feed.

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My question would be the same to you that it was when I saw the trailer for Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 where Russia invaded the EAST coast of the United States.


How would they get them all there? Or feed them all? Waging such a massive war from such a distance would be logistically impossible given the level of technology displayed.


Or better yet, if you're going to vaporize all life on a planet to make room for inhabitants..... why not do that on Mars? We can't live on the surface of Mars, but..... how would that be any different than Pandora?

Sure Unobtanium sells for 20 million a kilo but..... how much do you think it would cost to transport "millions" of people plus supplies for "millions of people" several light years?

It took us centuries as a species to work up the courage to go on journeys into the unknown that was assumed would take weeks and actually took months. Even more centuries for more than a few hundred or a few thousand to do it.

Originally Posted by taylorcraftbc65

Jake and the others are either going to have to transform the Na'vi into a technological Defense Force, from the Stone Age Clans that they are now, or Eywa will have to interviene again, and fry the inbound armada to the last ship, with a high energy plasma wave from a local star that she causes to go supernova as they pass it. Then, as it falls through itself becoming a black hole, the remaining "space junk" is pulled into the black hole forever. How's THAT for an ending with "Hellfire and damnation" spiritual overtones??

My first thought when reading this.....

[Clarke]

Apart from the fact that Alpha Centauri fuels all of Pandora's ecosystems, and so affecting it in any significant way won't help, the RDA have the capability (though perhaps not the motivation) to literally or metaphorically nuke the site from orbit, do not pass Go, collect 200 (million) dollars.

You don't require any loss of human life to poison Pandora permanently. You need any one of various "super"-weapons, all of which can be delivered pretty cheaply and are basically unblockable with 22nd century technology, let alone Na'vi technology. There is nothing Eywa can do in this matter, because to stop the RDA requires some modicum of space access, which the Na'vi are centuries from.

[Human No More]

Honestly, that isn't going to happen. Read any background ever.

THEY DO NOT HAVE WMD. Even if they somehow had the capacity, they aren't going to commit suicide by using them. 'A couple of million' people coming to Pandora would take AROUND 10,000 YEARS* just for the marines, with another 15,000 years for any actual weapons, not to mention the lack of anywhere for them to actually arrive.

*200 per ISV, 12 ISVs. ~12 years per round trip.

There is also no realistic way Quaritch can come back, at all. He's dead. None of his memories are preserved, and an offhand joke about DNA does not apply to a REALISTIC scifi film, where cloning actually works as it does in the real world.

[Human No More]

Originally Posted by Clarke

Apart from the fact that Alpha Centauri fuels all of Pandora's ecosystems, and so affecting it in any significant way won't help, the RDA have the capability (though perhaps not the motivation) to literally or metaphorically nuke the site from orbit, do not pass Go, collect 200 (million) dollars.

You don't require any loss of human life to poison Pandora permanently. You need any one of various "super"-weapons, all of which can be delivered pretty cheaply and are basically unblockable with 22nd century technology, let alone Na'vi technology. There is nothing Eywa can do in this matter, because to stop the RDA requires some modicum of space access, which the Na'vi are centuries from.

Back to trolling? REALLY?

THEY DO NOT HAVE SUPERWEAPONS. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DESTROY THEIR OWN BUSINESS EVEN IF THEY DID.