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Old 09-22-2011, 04:32 PM
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HNM? Not everyone dislikes the movie because they are 'hipsters' (whatever the hell they are). Some people have very, very, VERY good reasons for disliking the movie.
A definition of a hipster varies, but the idea is someone who dislikes anything popular without any other reason, or else only pretends to 'ironically' like it if they are not capable of completely feigning dislike. There are also various stereotypes around things they like do do, but they aren't relevant to making a comparison when someone dislikes something due to popularity. You'd probably know it as It's popular now it sucks.

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"Hipsters are the friends who sneer when you cop to liking Coldplay. They're the people who wear t-shirts silk-screened with quotes from movies you've never heard of and the only ones in America who still think Pabst Blue Ribbon is a good beer. They sport cowboy hats and berets and think Kanye West stole their sunglasses. Everything about them is exactingly constructed to give off the vibe that they just don't care."
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Unless you want to call someone like, say, Debbie Reese, a Native American woman who is tribally enrolled, a hipster for her review and dislike of Avatar.
If I was discussing that, I would call her out on all of that, and point out all her flaws in her reasoning. It does not matter who she is (especially since the film is not about her) and I would do the same to anyone's flawed reasoning.
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Quite simply, it doesn't matter who someone is, it doesn't give them an exemption from logical thinking. The fact she even tried to work in a reference to Inglorious Basterds practically makes this entire discussion of her post redundant. She's not a hipster, just another individual with too much self-importance and a persecution complex (in addition to no understanding of tropes, and some kind of belief that anything with a vague resemblance to something must be that very thing). A hipster is someone who dislikes it because it did well.


I by no means said that everyone who dislikes it is a hipster. Indeed, some people can even say "I didn't like it because I like space marines shooting things, not films where they get defeated" and while I may thoroughly dislike that person's taste, that's a reason not to like it.
They might say "I don't like scifi" and I'd think them a pretentious idiot, but clearly, that rules out them liking it, and that's their taste.
Not liking a film simply because it did well (not to be confused with finding it overrated) is not a comparable reason. Making a thread claiming that its premise is impossible but going on to only say that it isn't likely with current Earth is blatant trolling. Disliking a film for not explaining every single aspect in perfect detail while providing necessary explanation where needed, but loving a TV series that doesn't explain anything at all is being hugely logically inconsistent.
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