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Old 10-28-2011, 10:44 AM
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Exactly (oh wow, I agree with Isard). I think it was either Orlov or Heinberg who said that these two states are basically the same in so many ways, that the only difference was that the USSR was marginally less efficient in exploiting human and natural resources globally and thus collapsed a few years earlier.

I wonder about Europe. Just yesterday, Germany put its signature on another 1 trillion Euro bailout program. In the US the signs of collapse are more obvious, but it is going in slow motion it seems, Europe feels like it is kicking to keep afloat - I wonder what happens if they reach the end of the ladder. I think sh*t creek here is more a sh*t river. While people still to a large part have jobs that actually produce something tangible outside of the financial industry, they also do not have many backup plans. There is in most parts some kind of government aid for jobless people, laws to prevent evictions - but also the food comes from the supermarket. And Europe is hopelessly overpopulated - if energy resources get scarce because of some deep financial crash, it will be quite tough here because life in that density depends a lot on energy from the outside :s . And survival skills wont help you a lot in western/central Europe either - there is no way you can apply them in any serious way... maybe if you go to Sweden

Well, I guess those people I knew at uni who thought about going to China to work as geologists there did at least the "right decision" in terms of keeping on top of the economy a little longer.
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