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Old 11-07-2011, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Moco Loco View Post
That's the excuse I've heard again and again, and the only one I've heard. "It's too hard, let's just skip it." Progress could very easily be made if more people took it seriously as an issue.
Exactly.

What makes population control 'too hard' and, for example, reducing oil usage 'hard but necessary'? (especially when the former leads to a large improvement in the latter)

Absolutely nothing. People just have their own favourite ideas they want to be used to the exclusion of all else.

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Excuse me? I don't like having my words twisted into something that they aren't.

You do know that I said that other people blame government's right? I don't think that you had read my post properly.
I never said you did. I actually agreed to a point - I was pointing out the fallacy employed by the people you mentioned. I don't think that you had read my post properly.

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Population control is quite hard to implement..People have been known to hide kids in basements ect because they have a child over the limit. Forced sterilisation is a pretty drastic idea..I suppose taxes seem to be the most likely option.
Cheating is endemic in any such system - that has to be accepted and worked around, but even with cheating, it still makes an impact.

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I agree that progress could be made, and that moral complications is the only excuse. But, it is a fairly valid one. How far are we willing to go? Like does China's work well?
It doesn't work perfectly, but it helps. On a global scale, combined with getting education and birth control to undeveloped countries, would make a difference even if population remained at net growth at a lower level, although obviously the ideal would be equilibrium or slow decline.
Of course, it would work perfectly if there was no cheating on it, but that's unlikely.
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