Spirit names

[Moco Loco]

Originally Posted by auroraglacialis

One does not see anymore the rock as a stupid lump of crystals as the ego tells us.

I don't think rocks are stupid

Can you find this out in a dream? Dreams are cheap and I'm already a master at experiencing them

[auroraglacialis]

Well I am not an expert in spirit name finding
I would not exclude it, though I got the impression that usually there is some hardship involved, but I guess learning to access dreams with full consciousness is a skill that is powerful as well.
I think this is one of the things that cannot reallz be described with rules. If you gain knowledge of this, you will know that it is so, your feelings and the context will probably tell you if you "got it"

And I dont think rocks are stupid either - Rocks have great stories to tell... in multiple senses. I think not everone is totally encompassed in that culture that regards rocks (or even animals) as "stupid" and I think to dig out of this means to start to "see"

[apache_blanca]

Originally Posted by Moco Loco

Can you find this out in a dream? Dreams are cheap and I'm already a master at experiencing them

imho - yes you can. Especially that you're quite an active dreamer I am almost sure I'll find mine out thru a dream, too, when the time comes - I get a lot of knowledge thru dreams; they seem to be a good route, so why not the spiritual name, too.

This is maybe off the OM, but there are lots of different ways to get a spiritual name - many spiritual and/or religious traditions, have "the fresh new start" associated with a new name. Amma , for one, gives spiritual names too - but she is of a Hindu tradition (altho she doesn't convert anybody into anything, this is why I stick with her). So the name will be in sanskrit & will have to do with Bhagavat Gita, Vedanta etc. These names are spoken - half of the people in the programs are called Prabuddha(The All-Consciousness), Kaivalya (Rejoicing in the Dance of Freedom), Jagadish (The One Who Holds the Universe) - or Aparna (The One Without Debts) or even Tapasya (The Austere One). She (Amma), looks at you with that "laser gaze", "scans" you, & gives you the name that reflects your essence, "the inner you" & somehow helps you to get thru the life. Altho sometimes people don't like their names. I remember somebody joking: "What if she says your spiritual name is Little Swine? Are you ready to take it?"

I haven't asked for my sanskrit name - it must "ring the bell", one must "click" with it, & truly want it, this is not a laughing matter. So I guess this is why I hold off - no "bells" are ringing yet... It (the name) will come when time is due.

I just can't help quoting Avatar: "When?" - "When you're ready".

[MOMS Ball Avatar]

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Originally Posted by apache_blanca

out of blue: I remembered a conversation between Carlos & Don Juan: Don Juan said that Mescalito told him "his special name" - not Don Juan's but the plant spirit's name so that Don Juan could call upon him when needed; something like a private email. Carlos asked what the name was & Don Juan replied that that he couldn't tell it: that particular name was for him alone, & Carlos would receive his "special name to call upon Mescalito" from him directly - when / if he is ready. - "And what do I know! Maybe he'll tell you his name is Jose!" (the old brujo liked to laugh so much).

I too have read A "Separate Reality" the teachings of don Juan. Carlos needed " the smoke" to let him catch up with Mescalito so he could "See" Like Avatar "See You"

So I don't know if a language is important. "This must feel inside".

Language is important to convey ideas, but the "feeling" is better. Oddly enough when we went to Seattle we all "FELT" one another. It is quite a leap of faith of a bunch of people that have never met each other from different countries decide to meet up. All of us had never seen each other in person. James of Terra and I saw each other for the first time about 1 AM in the airport. He had his "Blueskins" shirt on, and I had my AVATAR shirt with the glow in the dark eyes on. The only way we recognized each other was by looking for each other this way.

I "felt" James looking at me when I had my back turned when I was getting my luggage off of the carousel.I turned and then saw him.

It was like that the entire time in Seattle. We were finishing each other sentences, we would look at each other and already know with out speaking. It was like a loving family union. Magical

When we left I think all of us had PSS, Post Seattle Syndrome. I was very sad But we all knew that we would come back! That helped. I hope that everyone can make it 2012.

I guess it is justified^^ - especially about traveling. And a shaman ... it might be only a symbolic way to say "a person of knowledge". My homeopath (a former cardiologist, i.e. a medical professional) is my personal "Mo'at" in the sense of sharing knowledge - altho she charges for the visits as normal but the knowledge she shares (outside the treatment) is worth so much more.

All said, I agree that one must be careful.[/QUOTE

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See you in Seattle