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Old 11-25-2011, 10:46 AM
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Thank you so much Mika. As for Aquaplants question I'd have to pick the 2nd option. Although I have to add that society is built by our ancestors and modified ever so much by ourselves. So really you'd be scratching your head trying to wonder who created the broken system in the first place.
I guess you are correct in the same sense that a cold shower feels awful when you turn it all the way down to the cold, but when you slowly move down the temperature while getting used to it at the same time, you don't notice the change nearly as much. Maybe we have just slowly become accustomed to living in the horror our society is today, or at least most people have, because I'm afraid that I never will.

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Also as a comment on my previous post. What I mean by the patriarchal system not catering to everyone is that even though we do get around in this system, most of us feel disillusioned because we don't fit into these rigid stereotypes that as a whole the society lays out for us. This helps to create things like the need for plastic surgery, exercise equipment and crazy diets and the glut of material goods for people to consume and enhance their feeling of self worth. Also I must note that there are many societies that help to create a whole. A person's family count as one, the media as another, the workplace as another. Really the list goes on and on.
I would say that you are making it too complex, when it is really much simpler than that. Worth is pretty much measured in monetary success these days, but those who have already achieved said success in their opinion, turn their eyes towards other sources of self worth, now that they feel that being just monetarily successful isn't doing the trick anymore. Some people just stay on the money track, hoarding more and more, thinking that the next trillion or so will bring them happiness, but it won't.

The ones who seek these other sources that you mentioned just seek the same hollow goal of constant improvement, but they only pursue different things instead of one. All in all, it's the need to be successful in one's own eyes, or in the eyes of others, but it's all product of the society that is based on success, progress and endless growth, which is an impossibility in itself.

I think the stereotypes that you are referring to work at more subtle levels, but I guess one could say that at least the man stereotype has always been the can do variety, which says that you are nothing but the measurement of your achievements. Then again this is one of those things that are not written anywhere so one could check if that's correct, but they are rather the current paradigm that is in the collective that is our society and us within it.

At times I wonder why I ramble on so much, but I guess that's the only thing I'm good at.
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