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Old 12-10-2011, 01:49 AM
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Errrr... if energy is transferred to something a few things can happen: it can go faster, it can increase its temperature, it can explode, etc. The effect is the same for the "negative" energy. What is really important is how that energy is being transferred to surpass the nicely defined c constant of the universe without creating a paradox that would annihilate the mechanisms involved in it.
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Old 12-10-2011, 02:04 AM
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Nonono, you don't understand; in the negative energy case, those things happen when you take energy away. If a FTL particle collides with something and transfers energy to it, both the FTL particle and whatever it collided with speed up.
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Old 12-10-2011, 03:18 AM
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It is going to be really interesting if the results are confirmed. Again, the duality of our reality is so patent and yet, so elusive.
However, one more question, why didn't the negative energy annihilated the mass of the neutrinos?
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Old 12-10-2011, 03:21 AM
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Because the neutrinos mass is, presumably, imaginary.

(Did I say that things get really wibbly with FTL?)
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...not to mention, explosions are the release of energy
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Nonono, you don't understand; in the negative energy case, those things happen when you take energy away. If a FTL particle collides with something and transfers energy to it, both the FTL particle and whatever it collided with speed up.
Would they heat up or cool down though when they collided then?
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Both of the particles would heat up, I think.
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OHOHO reverse entropy Moco like.
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OHOHO reverse entropy Moco like.
Same, entropy is very depressing. A universe full of hydrogen atoms spreading further and further apart would be very boring.
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Dude I know! On a sort of unrelated note, I went to this private churchy school one year, and entropy was called in the science textbook, "direct evidence of God". I don't remember the justification for it, only that I've hated it from the beginning, and yes, it is seriously depressing. If I can't live forever, I at least want life to exist forever, but not going to happen if the universe gets all stretchy and even all the atoms get ripped apart in the end
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Ironically, entropy can actually be argued to disprove such beings because (most types of) magic break the laws of thermodynamics.
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It is very interesting to read hypothesis behind what has been measured. Negative energy, if exists, it must be the breakage of everything we know, given that it accelerates mass instead of slowing it down: simply put, it seems that negative energy, if exists, takes mass away from an object, making the relativistic equations predicting infinite energy and infinite mass at the speed of light possible, a very good hypothesis indeed.
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Imaginary mass does a lot stranger things than just FTL objects. I think conventional mechanics basically explodes in your face, since stuff like F=ma doesn't make sense anymore.

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Well, the second law is just a particle statistics thing, so you could get around it if you could somehow influence the quantum involved.
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