Anyone else root for the humans?

[Marvellous Chester]

^ Thirded. Obliterate it, cast it into the void

[Raiden]

I suppose.

I'd like his head mounted here for a bit longer though.

It's a nice decorative touch.

[Advent]

Hold on. Did someone tag this is 'lame trolling' or was it Pwnzerfaust?

[Clarke]

Check again.

[auroraglacialis]

So the first think I thought when I read the post was maybe:

And then I looked at the username and needed not to guess anymore

[Devourment]

I think it's probably easier to pick a side when instead of Race A vs. Race B you see see it as Good vs. Bad.

[Moco Loco]

Sure. We didn't pick the na'vi over the humans because they're more beautiful (though they are, as many of us would say).

[Raptor]

Originally Posted by Moco Loco

Sure. We didn't pick the na'vi over the humans because they're more beautiful (though they are, as many of us would say).

Whether they're more aesthetically pleasing or not is purely opinion. It's fine for him to prefer the looks of human over the looks of Na'vi. But that shouldn't be a reason to think that humans are superior.

Of course, if he said that for the sake of trolling, then I'll let you guys have at it.

[Moco Loco]

Wow dude, that would be real trolling If anybody ever comes in here and talks about how ugly the na'vi are, I'll have no doubts. I was really saying that more in response to Devourment's post though.

[Sight Unseen]

Yeah, I think this is a rare instance of this not being trolling. If it is, well done Pwnzerfaust; you have elicited a reaction.

That said, I fail to see the logic behind Pwnzerfaust's... unique opinion. There is absolutely no way to justify the RDA's actions on Pandora for two reasons. The earth didn't just magically decide to go to s**t one day; we, humans, killed everything, and the RDA is messing up another planet. Also, we don't have any real need for room-temperature superconductors. They'd just be nice to have.

You don't break into someone else's place, tell them to GTFO, kill them for being understandably irate and not doing so, then blow up their house. It's just wrong.

To summarize:

[Clarke]

Originally Posted by Pwnzerfaust

A similar failing occurred in Avatar. Why in the world would the humans fly their gigantic shuttle so low and leave themselves so vulnerable? It's silly. They could have released the bomb from ten kilometers in the sky. Oh, you say, but their electronics were messed up! And that, my friends, is what old manual bombardier sights would be useful for. Are you telling me that in the vast database the main compound surely has, there's nothing to help them devise a non-electronic bomb sight using the myriad parts they have laying about?

If you assume that unobtanium is a normal superconductor, the math reveals that the result of flying through the mountains is not electronic interference. What precisely that result is depends on how you massage the figures, but in most cases it's far nastier. (On the extreme end, "convert Polyphemus into a magnetar" nasty.)

Honestly? I hope the sequel consists of the humans coming back with a solar sail ship loaded down with nuclear warheads, and that they threaten to glass the planet if Na'vi don't stop being uppity little girls--and then follow through when they inevitably resist.

Unfortunately for you and the people who agree with you, this would not sell.

(Note: I'm deliberately missing the point, for comic effect. I know all about the reasons that a "nuke ALL the things" sequel wouldn't happen, both in- and out-universe.)

Originally Posted by Sight Unseen

That said, I fail to see the logic behind Pwnzerfaust's... unique opinion. There is absolutely no way to justify the RDA's actions on Pandora for two reasons.

There's no way to justify the morality of it, I'd agree, but I don't think that's what Pwnzerfaust was complaining about. He's asking about the logic of it, rather than the morality; the RDA want to do a specific thing, i.e. gather unobtanium, and he thinks there's a lack of in-story reasons preventing them from doing that effectively, especially in a sequel. The result - the RDA are ineffective anyway - annoys him because he doesn't think it's justified.

Also, I happen to know that his opinion isn't unique. Some of my friends share it, and have explained it to me. I personally don't agree, but there is a logic behind it, which I could explain if anyone cares.

[Crickett]

Originally Posted by Sight Unseen

Yeah, I think this is a rare instance of this not being trolling. If it is, well done Pwnzerfaust; you have elicited a reaction.

He joined this forum, has 2 posts, both of them being in this thread, never actually said or indicated that he is an Avatar fan and was (for the moment) never seen again.

[mikkowilson]

Trolling or not (and nothing like assuming the worst in a person as the default by the way, brothers); this thread does raise some interesting discussion.

Originally Posted by Sight Unseen

You don't break into someone else's place, tell them to GTFO, kill them for being understandably irate and not doing so, then blow up their house. It's just wrong.

Yet we have, and continue to do so; throughout history.

Nature's (humans) actions very often have nothing to do with logic. Or what is "right".

- Mikko

[Crickett]

Originally Posted by mikkowilson

Trolling or not (and nothing like assuming the worst in a person as the default by the way, brothers); this thread does raise some interesting discussion.

Mikko, as a long time poster, you should be well aware this isn't the first time a thread like this has popped up on an avatar forum. And it invariably is always trolling.

And I'll point out again that even still, the op has not been seen again.

[Human No More]

Originally Posted by Sight Unseen

Yeah, I think this is a rare instance of this not being trolling. If it is, well done Pwnzerfaust; you have elicited a reaction.

That said, I fail to see the logic behind Pwnzerfaust's... unique opinion. There is absolutely no way to justify the RDA's actions on Pandora for two reasons. The earth didn't just magically decide to go to s**t one day; we, humans, killed everything, and the RDA is messing up another planet. Also, we don't have any real need for room-temperature superconductors. They'd just be nice to have.

You don't break into someone else's place, tell them to GTFO, kill them for being understandably irate and not doing so, then blow up their house. It's just wrong.

To summarize:

Reminds me of QDB: Quote #307404

Originally Posted by Crickett

Mikko, as a long time poster, you should be well aware this isn't the first time a thread like this has popped up on an avatar forum. And it invariably is always trolling.

And I'll point out again that even still, the op has not been seen again.

Of course. What a good note to end on.