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![]() Does anyone know the na'vi words for Grandmother and Grandfather? In the movie I did notice Neytiri knew the english words for them when explaining the last shadow to Jake...Irayo ma frapo...
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A kinship system has not been released. We would need to wait on James Cameron to reveal the kinship system before words can be made. (Not every culture has the same kinship system as you and I.)
So the answer: The words for grandmother and grandfather do not exist.....yet. EDIT: Also, what does "shrang oe" mean? O_O Last edited by TireaAean; 01-05-2012 at 03:15 AM. |
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Unfortunately, the Na'vi kinship system is "Cameronian territory" and Paul Frommer (the language creator) is leaving it up to James Cameron to figure that out before he comes up with the words. There have been many requests for them, but until Cameron gives the okay we won't be getting them.
However, you could say "father's father" - "sempulä sempul" for a grandfather on the paternal side. "Sempulä sa'nok" would be "father's mother" - and it works the same way for the maternal side. "Sa'nokä sa'nok" = "mother's mother" and "sa'nokä sempul" = "mother's father". Edit: ninja'd Tirea, how legal is this structure? I've seen it used before, but maybe it isn't as accepted as I thought?
Last edited by Unknown; 01-05-2012 at 03:31 AM. |
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That's the construction I've always used and seen used. Never been told it was wrong.
-Txonä Rolyu
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EDIT: besides the thought: what if Sempul can only mean the father of the speaker, and to say "Father [of me]'s father[of me]" it would be like some weird thing to say that. But I have a feeling that it wouldn't be like that. I feel like "Sempul sempulä" can suffice for now to say grandfather, the father of the father., etc as you put them all. I feel (for now) that the same principle could be used for other family members (until we get the actual words): 'ite/'itan sa'nokä tsmukanä (super longwinded way to say cousin) sempulä tsmuke (aunt, father's sister) and so on. DOUBLE EDIT: If they have easy words for Mother, Father, Brother, Sister, son, daughter, how much different can their kinship system be than ours? If you just extend that right there, you get the same system as we use. meh. Last edited by TireaAean; 01-05-2012 at 01:21 PM. |
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Yeah, that was my first thought. Since there's father/mother, saying "father's father" etc. can't be actually wrong, even if it turns out in the future not to be the very best way to put it; much like in English.
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Irayo
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mispelled..sorry...Shrung oe
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They wouldn't necessarily have the same definitions, because e.g. they consider the biological father's brothers to be "fathers" as well.
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Fascinating. I never knew that.
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Please don't tell me you're verbally butchering Na'vi fu ikranìl oeyä yasyom ngati ;P
Anyway, I can see you most likely meant to say srung oe. The correct way to say "help me" is srung si oeru.
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OHHH See, that's what I thought at first but wasn't sure. I would have expected "Srung si oer" or whatever.
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