Homeopathy

[Human No More]

The placebo effect can be very effective. That said, homeopathy is not only based on a dubious premise to begin with, but diluted to the point that the chance of it containing even a single molecule from the supposed 'cure' is effectively zero.
People given a sugar pill and told it's ibuprofen can mentally block pain. People have even had cancer go into remission on placebo - this is all on what is objectively useless as medication, but they believe it will do something, so their body does what the brain wants.

Homeopathy kills people by convincing them they can refuse proper treatment because their magic water will cure them, then it invariably doesn't. In some double-blind studies, the placebo has performed better than the homeopathy.

[Mika]

Originally Posted by Human No More

The placebo effect can be very effective. That said, homeopathy is not only based on a dubious premise to begin with, but diluted to the point that the chance of it containing even a single molecule from the supposed 'cure' is effectively zero.
People given a sugar pill and told it's ibuprofen can mentally block pain. People have even had cancer go into remission on placebo - this is all on what is objectively useless as medication, but they believe it will do something, so their body does what the brain wants.

Homeopathy kills people by convincing them they can refuse proper treatment because their magic water will cure them, then it invariably doesn't. In some double-blind studies, the placebo has performed better than the homeopathy.

Alright - first of all I'm going to back up my arguements with solid facts through documentation. I respectfully request the same from those opposed, rather than just presenting opinioned generalizations!

Secondly the side effects of pharmecuticals has killed more patients than Homeopathy will ever have!!! Not to mention the toxic effects its created in our global waterways. In fact pharmecutical 'dumping' is now being proved to contibuting to the alarming increases in male sterility/impotency, and early onset puberty and infertility in females!!!

So what we are needing to get 'realistic” about is modern allopathic synthetic medicines, Con's far out weigh the brain washing pro's they try to use to play god with.

sidenote: btw I've been doing this dance of a debate, for more than twenty five years, and in that time, more people have cone over to this side of the dance floor, in the end.

[Clarke]

Originally Posted by Mika

Alright - first of all I'm going to back up my arguements with solid facts through documentation. I respectfully request the same from those opposed, rather than just presenting opinioned generalizations!

Exhibits 1, 2, 3.

The first article in particular says:
In particular, there was no condition which responds convincingly better "to homeopathic treatment than to placebo or other control interventions. Similarly, there was no homeopathic remedy that was demonstrated to yield clinical effects that are convincingly different from placebo."

Spending more than 5 minutes on this will yield more, of course.

Secondly the side effects of pharmecuticals has killed more patients than Homeopathy will ever have!!!

This is perfectly consistent with homoeopathy doing nothing; the placebo effect will not directly kill you. It's also fallacious reasoning, since homoeopathic medicine is not used for high-risk or otherwise "deadlier" conditions, and this will bias the statistics in its favour.

Not to mention the toxic effects its created in our global waterways. In fact pharmecutical 'dumping' is now being proved to contibuting to the alarming increases in male sterility/impotency, and early onset puberty and infertility in females!!!

This is trying to exploit a dichotomy that doesn't exist: "Conventional medicine is bad, therefore homoeopathy works!"

So what we are needing to get 'realistic” about is modern allopathic synthetic medicines, Con's far out weigh the brain washing pro's they try to use to play god with.

Scaremongering and emotional manipulation. Demonizing the opponent is not a valid debating tactic.

sidenote: btw I've been doing this dance of a debate, for more than twenty five years, and in that time, more people have cone over to this side of the dance floor, in the end.

Appeal to popularity is not an argument either.