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Old 02-07-2012, 06:08 AM
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Just throwing it out there - The concept that animals act only mechanically and have no higher mental functions is starting to become obsolete. Animals have emotions, they have memories that they act upon, some have forethought, and all animals (even insects) have some form of rudimentary consciousness, varying in complexity. So as we discuss this, let's avoid the old worldview that the animals are simply fleshy robots. The animal mind (including our own ) is much more complex than we ever could have imagined. The dog could very well know the direct consequences of its actions.

What if it's a criminal like John Wayne Gacy, who went to the gas chamber feeling no remorse for his crimes (his dying words were "kiss my ass"). If, for instance, to save his life, you had to kill a dog that has done heroic deeds, would you?
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Old 02-07-2012, 07:03 AM
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Just throwing it out there - The concept that animals act only mechanically and have no higher mental functions is starting to become obsolete.
I never made this claim.

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Animals have emotions, they have memories that they act upon, some have forethought, and all animals (even insects) have some form of rudimentary consciousness
Does this imbue them with any sense of understanding, justice, mercy, guilt?

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What if it's a criminal like John Wayne Gacy, who went to the gas chamber feeling no remorse for his crimes (his dying words were "kiss my ass"). If, for instance, to save his life, you had to kill a dog that has done heroic deeds, would you?
Yes, rather reluctantly and as an absolute last resort. It may be easier to save a dog or cat than to save or convince a human that killing himself is wrong but ultimately I think the latter takes moral imperative regardless of how difficult it may be.

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