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[Roberto47]

Originally Posted by Moco Loco

I'm not too good at details, but I think I generally have good spatial perception, so stick figures are right up my alley

I just looked at your stick figures, They make me smile Keep it up

[Moco Loco]

Originally Posted by Roberto47

I just looked at your stick figures, They make me smile Keep it up

[fierox]

Originally Posted by Roberto47

Thank you Fierox!!!!

Thats realy interesting I Gues i don't knowe so much about all the different drawing-options out there, hehe.. Maybe i'll give it a go some time But my biggest dream is to do like you, to draw digital! I have bee'n drooling over a "Wacom Cintiq 21UX LCD tablet" at the local computer store fore the last days DO WANT!! Hehe...

Yeah wacom tablets are great, ive been using them since, well before usb
Im using the Cintiq 12WX for a few years now, rumors of glass scratches and well the price made me decide against the 21UX.
Other wacom tablets are great aswell, especially the Intuos line.
The Cintiqs are great but they also have some flaws like their sensitive for scratches, pen response is worse at the screen edges and they come with a huge amount of cabling and a connection box. Especially the scratches are terrible (im very carefull and still got a few over the years) but even so i love the device!
Even with a Cintiq it is still not quite the same as drawing on paper tho, im pretty sure you will love it but try before you buy!

[Ateyo leSyaksyuk]

I have been considering the purchase of a drawing tablet, though I might have to settle for the bottom of the line until after the meetup. Thanks for the recommendations, though. I have been using the Rate My Drawing website free and drawing with a mouse. Though they recommend using a wacom tablet. I haven't drawn anything lately, but I am TOBYBEAR if you are interested in searching out my non Avatar computer sketches!
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[Roberto47]

Originally Posted by fierox

Yeah wacom tablets are great, ive been using them since, well before usb
Im using the Cintiq 12WX for a few years now, rumors of glass scratches and well the price made me decide against the 21UX.
Other wacom tablets are great aswell, especially the Intuos line.
The Cintiqs are great but they also have some flaws like their sensitive for scratches, pen response is worse at the screen edges and they come with a huge amount of cabling and a connection box. Especially the scratches are terrible (im very carefull and still got a few over the years) but even so i love the device!
Even with a Cintiq it is still not quite the same as drawing on paper tho, im pretty sure you will love it but try before you buy!

Thank you for your advice's Fierox I believe you have been doing this for while, sow i have some questions for you Have you tried the Intuos series ore something like it? And if you have, dosn't it feel weard to draw on the tablet and looking in a other direction, i mean looking at the screen while your hands are down at the tablet? Especially if you are used to drawing on paper? The reason i ask this questions is because i'm considering the Intuos instead of the Cintiqs, HUGE difference in prices you knowe! And one more question What type of software/program do you recommend to use with this?

[Human No More]

Software should be photoshop - there are others, but they aren't really as good.

If it absolutely has to be free, Paint.NET is good (although not sure if it supports tablets ), and GIMP is almost as good as photoshop but a pain to use UI-wise.

[Roberto47]

Originally Posted by Ateyo leSyaksyuk

I have been considering the purchase of a drawing tablet, though I might have to settle for the bottom of the line until after the meetup. Thanks for the recommendations, though. I have been using the Rate My Drawing website free and drawing with a mouse. Though they recommend using a wacom tablet. I haven't drawn anything lately, but I am TOBYBEAR if you are interested in searching out my non Avatar computer sketches!
Rate My Drawings

Yaa.. I'm realy considering a wacom to Tho i realy like the natural flow of a pencile on a paper

I realy like your "horse of a different color" It would realy look good as a picture on the wall in my living room

[Roberto47]

Originally Posted by Human No More

Software should be photoshop - there are others, but they aren't really as good.

If it absolutely has to be free, Paint.NET is good (although not sure if it supports tablets ), and GIMP is almost as good as photoshop but a pain to use UI-wise.

Ok, Thank's

[Eana Unil]

Photoshop is really good, but there are also programs like Corel Painter or Paint Tool SAI which are good, too. Depends on which tools/feel you prefer.
Or online painting applets like Oekaki or various paintchats, such as Artgrounds.com and so on.

I'd also recommend a Wacom tablet. One day I wanna buy a Cintiq 24HD (this adorable baby here: Wacom Europe GmbH - Products - Cintiq - Overview - Cintiq 24HD ), but for now I use a Wacom Bamboo Special Edition and it fits my "needs" quite good, so yeah.

In the past I had 2 other tables, one from Aiptek and one from Pentagram. Both were horrible. Never again any other brand than Wacom.

[Roberto47]

Originally Posted by Eana Unil

Photoshop is really good, but there are also programs like Corel Painter or Paint Tool SAI which are good, too. Depends on which tools/feel you prefer.
Or online painting applets like Oekaki or various paintchats, such as Artgrounds.com and so on.

I'd also recommend a Wacom tablet. One day I wanna buy a Cintiq 24HD (this adorable baby here: Wacom Europe GmbH - Products - Cintiq - Overview - Cintiq 24HD ), but for now I use a Wacom Bamboo Special Edition and it fits my "needs" quite good, so yeah.

In the past I had 2 other tables, one from Aiptek and one from Pentagram. Both were horrible. Never again any other brand than Wacom.

Thanks for you advices

Wow!! a "24HD" That's a sweet piece of equipment You can't get much higer than that!!

Is it the Bamboo you use when you draw the na'vi lady/neytiri on your youtube-video?

[fierox]

Originally Posted by Roberto47

Thank you for your advice's Fierox I believe you have been doing this for while, sow i have some questions for you Have you tried the Intuos series ore something like it? And if you have, dosn't it feel weard to draw on the tablet and looking in a other direction, i mean looking at the screen while your hands are down at the tablet? Especially if you are used to drawing on paper? The reason i ask this questions is because i'm considering the Intuos instead of the Cintiqs, HUGE difference in prices you knowe! And one more question What type of software/program do you recommend to use with this?

I have had a few different wacom tablets in the past. There are also other brands producing tablets but my experience with them is that they dont go near wacom quality and pen "feel".
Yes with a tablet that isnt a screen you have to get used to looking at the screen while drawing. Thats actually not as hard as it may seem tho, although that probably varies between people and drawing styles.
Think you get the hang of it in one to five real drawings time.

The required size of the tablet is atleast equally important and depends on your drawing style. Do you draw mostly from the wrist or from your underarm?
Do you make small strokes or large. I've had tablets from A5 up to A3 and around A4 is good for me (the cintiq 12wx is that size). I know a guy who has a huuge tablet, he uses his entire arm for drawing with long (wild) strokes. Makes sense then, i wont need it. I like to turn my tablet around, put it on my lap, rotate it etc.
Advantage of a tablet is that you can place a quick real paper sketch on it and copy some lines.
For starting with tablets i guess i would recommend starting with a good for youre style size intuos tablet or a bamboo tablet. Bamboo is a cheaper line then intuos ones but with less sensitivity levels, not sure about tilt support and more importantly the size of the bamboo tablet has to be right for you. Do believe there now is one that supports multitouch (fingers) might be great if it suits youre drawing style but overal a nice gimmick i think.
If money isnt a problem, then sure why not pick up a 24HD cintiq

For software, well there are somany choices, first would be if you are going to draw pixel based (photoshop, gimp) or vector based (illustrator, flash).
There is plenty of choice in software, just make sure the software is capable of pressure sensitivity, wacom pen's support drawing differently (thicker line) when pressing harder and tilting. Most known packages are.

Hope this helps and really try a tablet before buying, if that aint possible go somewhere else or test at a friend or something.

[Eana Unil]

Originally Posted by Roberto47

Thanks for you advices

Wow!! a "24HD" That's a sweet piece of equipment You can't get much higer than that!!

Is it the Bamboo you use when you draw the na'vi lady/neytiri on your youtube-video?

Haha yeah, but I guess I'll be able to afford it in.... 50 years of saving money for it, hrh xD Nah, I'll just buy one, when I really have the spare money... one day. Hopefully. Gnargh.

Yeah, indeed, I got my Wacom Bamboo for 3? years now and I'm using it for every digital picture I'm doing and I also used it for every digital piece I did in the past years. Before I got my Bamboo Special Edition, I had a Wacom Bamboo Fun, it was also good, but not as good and comfortable as the Bamboo Special Edition.
For direct comparsion:

"Old" (my first) Wacom (Bamboo Fun):


My Wacom I got now for 3 years (Bamboo Special Edition):


There is already a new series of Bamboo Tablets (Pen, Pen & Touch or just Touch), which look like this here:

One of my friends just bought one of these (Pen) and he is really happy with it.

For me the only failing of Wacom tablets is, that the pen tips wear out pretty fast.

Maybe you wanna buy a Intuous or whatever right away, but in my opinion a bamboo is better for having a first tablet and getting to know how to draw with it (just because it's cheaper and also very good to handle).

[Roberto47]

Originally Posted by fierox

I have had a few different wacom tablets in the past. There are also other brands producing tablets but my experience with them is that they dont go near wacom quality and pen "feel".
Yes with a tablet that isnt a screen you have to get used to looking at the screen while drawing. Thats actually not as hard as it may seem tho, although that probably varies between people and drawing styles.
Think you get the hang of it in one to five real drawings time.

The required size of the tablet is atleast equally important and depends on your drawing style. Do you draw mostly from the wrist or from your underarm?
Do you make small strokes or large. I've had tablets from A5 up to A3 and around A4 is good for me (the cintiq 12wx is that size). I know a guy who has a huuge tablet, he uses his entire arm for drawing with long (wild) strokes. Makes sense then, i wont need it. I like to turn my tablet around, put it on my lap, rotate it etc.
Advantage of a tablet is that you can place a quick real paper sketch on it and copy some lines.
For starting with tablets i guess i would recommend starting with a good for youre style size intuos tablet or a bamboo tablet. Bamboo is a cheaper line then intuos ones but with less sensitivity levels, not sure about tilt support and more importantly the size of the bamboo tablet has to be right for you. Do believe there now is one that supports multitouch (fingers) might be great if it suits youre drawing style but overal a nice gimmick i think.
If money isnt a problem, then sure why not pick up a 24HD cintiq

For software, well there are somany choices, first would be if you are going to draw pixel based (photoshop, gimp) or vector based (illustrator, flash).
There is plenty of choice in software, just make sure the software is capable of pressure sensitivity, wacom pen's support drawing differently (thicker line) when pressing harder and tilting. Most known packages are.

Hope this helps and really try a tablet before buying, if that aint possible go somewhere else or test at a friend or something.

Thanks a lot Fierox!!! You are realy helping me out here in the choise of drawing-tablets

I think i have made my choise, and i'm going for a tablet insted of a tablet monitor.
And maby it's a litle bit overkill for me to start with a Intous to. I think a Bamboo is right up my ally

I belive a A4 size is the right size for me to, since i like to have a A4-paper
on top of a book in my lap and all my movement is in the wrist.

But what kind of Photoshop is best? there are several types, elments, cs5 and sow on?

[Roberto47]

Originally Posted by Eana Unil

Haha yeah, but I guess I'll be able to afford it in.... 50 years of saving money for it, hrh xD Nah, I'll just buy one, when I really have the spare money... one day. Hopefully. Gnargh.

Yeah, indeed, I got my Wacom Bamboo for 3? years now and I'm using it for every digital picture I'm doing and I also used it for every digital piece I did in the past years. Before I got my Bamboo Special Edition, I had a Wacom Bamboo Fun, it was also good, but not as good and comfortable as the Bamboo Special Edition.
For direct comparsion:

"Old" (my first) Wacom (Bamboo Fun):


My Wacom I got now for 3 years (Bamboo Special Edition):


There is already a new series of Bamboo Tablets (Pen, Pen & Touch or just Touch), which look like this here:

One of my friends just bought one of these (Pen) and he is really happy with it.

For me the only failing of Wacom tablets is, that the pen tips wear out pretty fast.

Maybe you wanna buy a Intuous or whatever right away, but in my opinion a bamboo is better for having a first tablet and getting to know how to draw with it (just because it's cheaper and also very good to handle).

Hehehe...Yaa.. If i had the mony i wouldn't hesitate That "24" is sweet!!

I think that the Bamboo Special Edition is something for me To start with

Thank you for your help

[Eana Unil]

If you wanna use Photoshop, I'd strongly recomment CS5 to you. Elements and lower versions are good, too, but not as good as CS5 (mix-up brushes, color pick circle, and other nice featurettes which other Photoshop versions don't offer).
I pictured Elements always as a kind of quick-editing tool for photos, not for drawing pictures.