'Upe lu Mowan

[Dakar]

I was wondering what "Mowan" was except the discription meaning pleasing physically/Sexually.

Is this what we humans would call "making out". Since Muntxa si is mating.
and of course we have Tsaheylu...
Or is this their word for Erotic or another word for the act of mating.

Also could anyone give me a couple of examples on how to use this word.
I really would apreciate it...

oh. Do they have a word for "Swim, Swimming? Cant find that word either.

[Human No More]

I think it's an adjective - used to describe someone, rather than being used for the act itself.

[Eana Unil]

"Mowan" and "muntxa (si)" don't have to be related to each other (linguistically).

HNM is right, "mowan" is an adjective, not a verb!
I guess "mowan" could be also used for describing something, not only somebody - like... to describe the feeling you have while mating ;P


"Tsaheylu (si)" is something different than mating sexually/physically. Like... let's say... "making the bond" (tsaheylu si) is like emotional/mental/spiritual "marriage", and "mutxan si" is more like what it is - a sexual act for pleasure or reproducing. On the other hand... "tìmuntxa" means "marriage" and "muntxatu" means "spouse".

But if you remember - the Na'vi are also "making the bond" (tsaheylu si) with Palis and Ikrans e.g. - and I doubt that this happens with any kind of arousal or sexual background.

A bit confusing.


The word for "to swim" is "slele".
Payoang slele. -> The fish swims.
"swimming" -> "nìslele" (adv. - literally "by swimming, in a swimming way")

[TireaAean]

From naviteri.org, the blog of Paul Frommer:

Mowan implies physical or sensual pleasure, and often has a sexual connotation:

Plltxe fko san ngaru lu mowan Txilte ulte poru nga. ‘I hear you like Txilte and vice versa.’

Mowan is also used slangily as a general term for ‘like’:

Tìtusaron mowan lu oer nìngay. ‘Hunting really turns me on.’

mowan is an adjective. something/someone IS mowan ((to someone))

Slele is the verb that means swim. It's literally in the dictionary, right under the S section between slär and sleyku. IF you don't see slele in your dictionary, you have a very old version, or you missed it searching. (I recommend using ctrl+F or the search function on the PDF in a browser or PDF viewer or something) The freshest Na'vi dictionary is always here: http://eanaeltu.learnnavi.org/dicts/NaviDictionary.pdf (!!We just got a bunch of new words, so when you get it, make sure to check it in a few days from now as it will have new words in it. go to naviteri.org to see the new words now!!)

nìslele, ma Eana Unil, is the adverb to describe how you got somewhere. It's possible to get to an island offshore nìslele. It's possible to get back to the beach from the island nìslele.

Swimming, the act thereof is actually tìslusele. This is a gerund. use this to say "I like swimming" "Swimming is hard" "swimming is good for your health"

slerele also means "swimming". But this form is the imperfective aspect of the present tense of swim. Therefore, "Oe slerele" means "I am swimming". in the present, you are not done swimming as you say that.

slusele also means "swimming". But this one acts more like an adjective (although it's called the active participle) This is used only attributively to say "THE swimming [NOUN] (([VERB]s))" For example, "I just killed a swimming fish with a spear!" would be "Oel tspìmang sluselea payoangit fa tukru!"

So recap:

Mowan means whatever Paul said it means above.

English has only one way to say [VERB]ing. Na'vi is specific and has three.
1. the gerund (the act [VERB]ing)
2. the active participle (used as an attributive adjective) (The [VERB]ing [NOUN])
3. the imperfective present ([NOUN] IS [VERB]ing]

Hope this helped.

[Eana Unil]

Well, it helped me a lot indeed, thanks (again) ^^ You're always great at explaining stuff so detailed ^^

[TireaAean]

Originally Posted by Eana Unil

Well, it helped me a lot indeed, thanks (again) ^^ You're always great at explaining stuff so detailed ^^

Glad to have helped

['Oma Tirea]

More discerning detail (so that one doesn't get lost):

Tsaheylu: the bond, the connection of neural queues
Tswin (plural: ayswin, or swin): the neural queues themselves
Tsaheylu si: to bond, the act of connecting neural queues

Finally, I've translated "mowan" as "sexy"

[TireaAean]

Originally Posted by 'Oma Tirea

More discerning detail (so that one doesn't get lost):

Tsaheylu: the bond, the connection of neural queues
Tswin (plural: ayswin, or swin): the neural queues themselves
Tsaheylu si: to bond, the act of connecting neural queues

Finally, I've translated "mowan" as "sexy"

Confirmed on all counts ;D

[Ateyo leSyaksyuk]

So if I wanted to translate that song I heard on the radio I could say:

Oel lu nihawng mowan fa oeya tewng.

I'm too sexy for my loincloth! (OK he sang about a shirt or a car)

[TireaAean]

I dont know about that.


And song translations are (almost) always shaky. They often contain many idioms, figures of speech and weird grammatical phrasing types specific to whatever language the song was written in, that dont exist that way in na'vi. Because of this, we have to translate the meaning not the words, and that causes the translation to be longwinded and grotesquely different than the original sometimes. But such is the process of translating instead of originating the material in na'vi.

[Ateyo leSyaksyuk]

Tam tam ma tirea aean! Mawey ma oeya tsmukan!
Ateyu lu yaymaka tsmuk!
Syak syuk! Syak syuk!
The song came out several years ago and i saw it recently as a car commercial. I didn't reallyexpect that it would translate accurately!

[TireaAean]

Hrh i am always calm. it's all good. I guess I was in a weird mood, not as lighthearted as usual. :/

Syak syuk!

[Dakar]

Thanks one and all...I do apreciate it

[Ateyo leSyaksyuk]

SI MEYAM MA OEYA TIREA AEAN SLA KEHE NI'MOWAN!

DAKAR: EVERYTHING YOU WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT MOWAN BUT WERE AFRAID TO ASK!
(it's the title from an Ancient 'Rrta Sex manual)!!!!

[TireaAean]

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