Guide To Being A Txantsan Cosplayer

[Human No More]

Yeah, it's a tradeoff of how easy it is for how realistic it looks - I'll be using paint

[Txantsulsam Fyawintxu]

Originally Posted by Moco Loco

Of course, this is always an option, but if the object is to look as realistic as possible then this is obviously not the way to go. If you plan on costuming as a na'vi on a frequent regular basis however and want easy application (which seems to be the idea here), I'd say go for it

Originally Posted by Human No More

Yeah, it's a tradeoff of how easy it is for how realistic it looks - I'll be using paint

That's what I thought, thanks for the input. I figured it'd be much more realistic looking due to the skin and stuff. Wished there was a comparision of the two in pictures to see how it would go. If there isn't too much of a trade off in terms of realism, then I'd probably go for it. But if not, then I doubt I'd get it and probably cosplay once in a blue moon.

Moco is basically correct, if I were to cosplay in a regular basis, then I'd go for the extra 'skin' to back it up. Plus, you probably won't even have to get your friends to do it for you all the time. Lol it would be mostly a convience issue rather than a realistic one, but you guys do have a point... I gotta find a comparison photo or something to see how good it would look in both views.

[Human No More]

If it was too loose, it wouldn't sit right and be fairly visible as clothes, if it was too tight it would have problems of its own. It's probably possible to get it just right, but would need to be done specifically for every person.

[Txantsulsam Fyawintxu]

Actually, as far as I've seen this 1 in others, you can't see through the costume. You'd have to literally try to squint your eyes in front of the person to see through it. (And it's still impossible lol)

The fitting thing wouldn't be too much of an issue unless you had the right size. If someone was too skinny, I could see why it would be loose. Or if somebody were too big, it would probably be too tight. Just thought it might've been a good idea for somebody that cosplays reguarly.

[MOMS Ball Avatar]

The Melron 4.5 paint is what I use. I use the light blue, blue and white to get the base color right. I use the blue alone for my stripes

[Txantsulsam Fyawintxu]

Thanks for the recommendation MOMS. I saw your profile Avatar costume - very neat!

What do you use to gather all the accessories and extras (e.g. the knife, bracelet, etc.)?

Maybe a website link could help ma tsmukan? I'm making a written list of what to use for a Na'vi costume later on in the future. Possibly for the next Avatar meet & ofc, Halloween as well.

[Sarah Noel]

Originally Posted by MOMS Ball Avatar

The Melron 4.5 paint is what I use. I use the light blue, blue and white to get the base color right. I use the blue alone for my stripes

He means Mehron, not melron, that typo might cause problems when searching for it.

[Ateyo leSyaksyuk]

I would recommend finding one in sky blue and painting stripes onto it rather than finding one in the wrong color and repainting the entire thing. It might necessitate the wearing of ankle ornaments, wrist ornaments and an elaborate necklace to cover seams at those places. I would be tempted to paint my entire body blue using PAX which doesn't wear off for a month and it needs be scrubbed off using a particular solvent if you are impatient. Ikxeru posted a great article about using PAX and was VERY helpful. But even he recommends water based makeup for your face. I would totally experiment with painting myself green for for St. Patty' Day. However, Brie and I will be celebrating 19 years together on March 19th. might paint myself BLUE for the occasion!
Special Notice: Circumstances have caused us to spend our travel money on the down payment of a vehicle. We may need to wait an extra year to travel to a meet up. This is sad. Very sad only.

[Txantsulsam Fyawintxu]

What's the difference between that one and the ReelMagik one for Avatar paintings?

Thanks for the advice Ateyo leSyaksyuk. I've considered that too, but I'm not sure what it would look like in real life to make that kind of distinction... I guess we'll have to wait and see. The prices are a bit expensive to be shipped elsewhere. :/

Edit: Postings at the same time! Awesome! hahaha

[Ateyo leSyaksyuk]

Originally Posted by Txantsulsam Fyawintxu

What's the difference between that one and the ReelMagik one for Avatar paintings?

YEAH THAT'S THE STUFF! IT COMES IN AVATAR BLUE!
http://www.reelmagik.com/REELMAGIK/PAX_paint.html
http://www.reelmagik.com/REELMAGIK/PAX_Paint.html
Thanks for the advice Ateyo leSyaksyuk. I've considered that too, but I'm not sure what it would look like in real life to make that kind of distinction... I guess we'll have to wait and see. The prices are a bit expensive to be shipped elsewhere. :/

Ikxeru said he didn't use an entire 16 oz bottle to coat his skin. I just don't want the effect ruined by OVER USE1 It seems like the option I would opt for.
Edit: Postings at the same time! Awesome! hahaha

When I was a kid, and my brothers would say something at the same time, we would punch each other on the arm and say: JINX YOU OWE ME A COKE!

PS I think both addresses work now. One does. Now to find their purple PAX!

[Niri Te]

Originally Posted by Ateyo leSyaksyuk

We may need to wait an extra year to travel to a meet up. This is sad. Very sad only.

This is NOT a "Perhaps", it is an absolute, we will NOT be able to make it up to Seattle this year, and if next year's meetup is still held in Seattle, instead of Lost Wages, it will put a small amount of doubt in making that one.
Sorry guys, if I could have gotten the particular model of distributor needed to discard the computerized system that hard failed with NO warning, (that's what non-points triggered distributors DO), then we would still have been "ON" for this year's meetup. As remote as this place is, we can NOT be without a RUNNING vehicle. Our other computerized vehicle's computerized system catastrophicly failed with no warning at a traffic light in El Paso. We got it back home, and I am waiting for the older non-fuel injected heads to put on it with a 4 barrel carb, so that I can rip the computer off the truck, and then IT will run fine.
We would have been without a vehicle of any sort for six weeks, and you don't go begging people to borrow their vehicles for that length of time, so we bought another, slightly newer Jeep from a Buy here Pay here lot in El Paso. After I get the Distributor for the 1990 Wrangler that we had already replaced the fuel injection with a 2 barrel carb, but not yet gone non-computer on the ignition on, and swap the "fuelie" heads and intake on the 1990 F-350 for the heads and intake manifold from a 1971 Lincoln Continental with the same size engine, and put a points controlled distributor in as well, then we will take the computerized system off the 1995 Wrangler that we just bought. That will give us THREE non-computerized vehicles that can only "soft" fail, (give lots of warning), that a five dollar set of points need to be replaced, not one of more than 30 sensors, or a 200 dollar computer.
We will also be able to take the 200 dollar in tank high pressure electric fuel pump out, and replace it with a low pressure inline 20 dollar electric fuel pump.
Niri Te

[Txantsulsam Fyawintxu]

Originally Posted by Ateyo leSyaksyuk

When I was a kid, and my brothers would say something at the same time, we would punch each other on the arm and say: JINX YOU OWE ME A COKE!

PS I think both addresses work now. One does. Now to find their purple PAX!

Hahaha glad that you found the one you were looking for ma tsmuke! Really? A 16 oz won't run out over a period of using it for your body? That's interesting... I wonder how many times you can do it til it runs out? Thanks for the information!

Well then... *gently punches you on the arm and demands you a coke* Lol

Don't worry guys, I'm not able to go to the Seattle meet either. Indeed, this is sad, very sad only... But there's always next year to look forward to. Niri Te, sounds like you're very knowledgable about cars from way back then. What's the difference between using that one and a more modern car that we use today? (That's if we DO go on a trip.)

[Niri Te]

Originally Posted by Txantsulsam Fyawintxu

Niri Te, sounds like you're very knowledgable about cars from way back then. What's the difference between using that one and a more modern car that we use today? (That's if we DO go on a trip.)

I am knowledgable about them because I have "twisting wrenches" since I was 12 years old in 1962. I can check out an "old style" ignition system with nothing more than a matchbook, screwdriver, pencil, and pair of pliers. To check out a modern system, you need a 200 to 300 dollar handheld "reader", (small computer), to talk to the cars MANY computers, sensor sub-systems.

There are two different classes of computer controlled injection systems, OBD-1, and OBD-2. OBD-1's were the first systems, they did NOT store failure codes, so that if you had an intermittent failure, you would NOT find it if the car was running again when it was tested. This is what cost me HUNDREDS of dollars for NOTHING with the 1990 Jeep, till I took the Jeep system off. and replaced it with a carb, intake manifold and in line low pressure fuel pump back in 1997, enabling the Jeep to run better than it EVER did, without a single problem till last week when the only computer left, the small spark control computer mounted on the fender well totally failed without warning.
In 1994 and 1995, the car company's went to the OBD-2 system, which DOES store failure codes, making it possible to troubleshoot intermittent failures. This is the system that has been used for over a decade now, but due to the fact that Ateyo and I owe a Hospital in Phoenix over a quarter of a million dollars because a drunken, uninsured, unlicensed driver hit her, causing her to be air evacuated to the Hospital for a three week stay. As a result of this, we have a credit rating that would be in NEGATIVE numbers if that were possible, negating the possibility of our getting anything that is newer than a 17 year old vehicle, at best.
Because of that, and the fact that I know so much about mechanics, (I work on our aircraft as well), we get the "Clunkers", and fix them up as quickly as our bank account allows.
If you are taking a trip, I would suggest either an OBD-2 equipped, or pre 1973 car.
Niri Te

[Moco Loco]

And I guess if it had to be a car in that 20 year gap, better the type that's cheaper to fix (so not jeep, land rover, Volvo, etc)

[Niri Te]

That would be a good idea. I suggest that we move this discussion to it's OWN thread, so I am going to make one titled "where ecology hits the bank account". The two of you that have posted on this new divergence from the original topic, please at least come up on the new thread once so I don't look like a complete ass for creating it.
Niri Te