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![]() Does anyone know about the great sorrows or the last four. Or has anything ever been mention?
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Nothing has really been mentioned, although there are vague mentions in the ASG of occasional problems and warfare between clans at some point in the past.
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Since Toruk Makto is seemingly a global thing, I'm personally wondering what could be so catastrophic that he would be needed, apart from aliens invading.
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Thanks Clark, I do apreciate your time and answer
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Perhaps this will be elaborated on in the novel... whenever it'll come out... I'm afraid, JC didn't take a notepad down with him in his mini-sub...
Wiggling bare toes, ~*Txim Asawl*~
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Clarke, what exactly makes you think toruk makto was global (aside from the possible assumption that everything is global because of eywa, which I find annoying)?
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My assumption is global, or mostly global.
"He brought the clans together in a time of great sorrow" Brought the clans together, to me, means most or all the clans, and with ikran, and toruk. It's not impossible to travel the whole of pandora and unite them. But what the sorrows were? From what Neytiri says, I don't think it was a conflict against the clans otherwise she might of said. "He brought the clans together to end the great sorrow." Maybe it could be famine, disease. But I have a feeling that It could be something we find out in the next instalment. JC said that lines were put in the movie specifically for sequal purposes. This could be one.
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My guess ,(and honestly Avatar is Camerons Dream) is a inter-tribal war , though Eywa would probbly frown strongly on such behavor, if the Na'Vi of that time could listen to what she had to say, "The time of great sorrow that brought the clans "Together" sure sounds like something drove them apart, In our culture its often our root "tribelism" instinct that makes us mistrust others , and build a fear based sociaty.I strongly suspect JC Based the Na'Vi and issues portrayed in Avatar on real world conflicts and issues "We" face and relate to , running under Avatars "fantasy shell" I could take an educated guess but only Cameron knows for sure.
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It is hard to imagine a conflict among people who could BOND and share emotions/thoughts. So call me naive and idealistic. Perhaps it is common among all cultures to experience jealousy and imply inferiority. ("My tswin is longer than YOUR tswin")
I just read Jonathon Swift's Gulliver's Travels. Mostly it is a political satire. The docile Lilliputians found something trivial to quarrel over, Which end to break a hard boiled egg! Historically, American Indian tribes warred over hunting grounds, mostly. A lot of marauding also occur to "acquire" horses and women. ;( ATEYO |
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Jake rides in on Turok-Mother (59 at the time) turns and whispers in my ear. "Is it just me or did Jake's loin cloth get longer now that he has the giant red dragon?" MY BRAIN! I can't KNOW these things!
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