Avatar Fan Film 3 - Who wants to take part?

[Fiyerwall]

Ooo, there's a script now! Sweet!

[Moco Loco]

Cool stuff, hope I can look it over tonight

[Aaron]

Still looking over the script, though I'll certainly be happy to do the "Everyone" bits! Looks like quite a few "camp" shots--very appropriate, and I wish I was going to be there!

Alan, what is the target frame rate for the film? 24?

[Alan]

Kaltxi Aaron

Well there will be quite a few to do in Seattle, in fact it would be great if you could help film them Of course you can be in front of the camera too!

As for final frame rate...well, the footage I get from contributers could in all forms; NTSC, PAL, smart phone! But the target output will be the best format I can make it. It would be great to give it a filmic look at 24. My default editing is 1080P 25fps. Not sure if I gave you an answer there ...., but we'll have to do some trials in the editing.

Alan

[mikkowilson]

You silly Europeans and your 25p..




- Mikko

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by Alan

Well there will be quite a few to do in Seattle, in fact it would be great if you could help film them

You bet, Alan. In fact, if you're trying to travel light, I've got a decent set of sticks I can lend you when you get here (before camping). Just let me know. My camera won't do 25p, though.

Originally Posted by mikkowilson

You silly Europeans and your 25p.

Always tryin' to one-up us Yanks! Literally, in this case!

[mikkowilson]

Nah. European film is 24p like the US.

It's their TV that runs at 50i or 25p. In the US we run at 60i or 30p.
(Unless you're talking about 720p HD, then it's 50p and 60p, respectively.)

- Mikko

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by mikkowilson

Nah. European film is 24p like the US.

It's their TV that runs at 50i or 25p. In the US we run at 60i or 30p.
(Unless you're talking about 720p HD, then it's 50p and 60p, respectively.)

- Mikko

I'm just talking about the one extra frame/sec in the "filmic" video frame rate. Aren't films simply run ~4% faster for TV in PAL Land? That's probably getting OT--sorry!

If Fan Film 3 is targeting 24 or 25 fps, then people here in NTSC Land should definitely engage the 24 fps modes of their cameras if they can, since 30 and 60 fps just don't convert to 24/25 very nicely. Particularly where pans are involved, the awkward frame cadence will be very noticeable. I've done this, and have always cringed at the result! Static nature shots and face shots are probably ok at 30/60, though.

[mikkowilson]

^^ all correct.

- Mikko

[Human No More]

Everyone needs to move to 60 (or more)... ¬_¬

[Alan]

Originally Posted by Aaron

Aren't films simply run ~4% faster for TV in PAL Land? That's probably getting OT--sorry!

Aye, probably...wondered why they spoke in a 1 frame higher pitch....Adverts still take just as long though... Why can't they run those at 60? Hehehe.

Originally Posted by Aaron

If Fan Film 3 is targeting 24 or 25 fps, then people here in NTSC Land should definitely engage the 24 fps modes of their cameras if they can, since 30 and 60 fps just don't convert to 24/25 very nicely. Particularly where pans are involved, the awkward frame cadence will be very noticeable. I've done this, and have always cringed at the result! Static nature shots and face shots are probably ok at 30/60, though.

Yeah, so it would be great if everyone could do 24...or 25 fps, it certainly be a way of getting some commonality and ease the editing and end result. Good thinking Aaron

Irayo for the offer of some sticks. I might just take you up on that. I'll be in touch.

Alan

[mikkowilson]

Alan, I'll most likely have my Merlin with me also if you'd like to use it?

- Mikko

[Alan]

Originally Posted by mikkowilson

Alan, I'll most likely have my Merlin with me also if you'd like to use it?

- Mikko

Hell yeah!!! Irayo ma tsmukan. It is ok for a 1.1Kg (2.4lb) camera? I'm presuming so.

Alan

[Av_Daedric]

You can drag me along for the ride as well!

Any specific deadline you need the footage by?

Also, is there any -preferred- file format you'd like? I saw the acceptable formats, but do you have a preference?

[Alan]

Yay! One of the original fan film crew

Well as soon after the meet up in Seattle really so it can be edited together after. You are coming to the meet up aren't you AV? . Hope to see you there tsmukan.

As for file format...hmmm...well if you are able to shoot in 24P that would be great. File format? Well the one that gives the least number of re-renders of your footage. I guess straight from you camera. I'm guessing that will be some form of .mp4 format?

Alan