Ancient Aliens

[Ateyo leSyaksyuk]

Whether his theories re correct or not, I think it amazing, the collosal stone structures but by ancient technology yet having close tolerance fits is hard to explain away.

[Human No More]

That doesn't make them impossible. The video I linked explored the crafting aspect and found it possible - while they didn't reach the level of precision found, this is a simple case of practice merely because nobody makes precision stone blocks any more, so while the skills are still known, people aren't as practiced.

[applejuice]

There's no need to have ultra-high tech devices to cut 90 degrees corners and flat faces in rock. As a matter of fact, to make a wall that is completely perpendicular to the ground you only need a bob, a plumb-bob, and a little practice:

[Moco Loco]

TIL that a plumb bob is something other than this

[Human No More]

Well, I can see the shape similarity

[auroraglacialis]

Originally Posted by Tsawke`Iheyu

That replica in Las Vegas is a high-rise hotel with offices and public spaces built around a central core, with steel, concrete and lots of glass. I was saying about replica made with stone blocks

Yes, I understand that. It is a different thing. Basically what we are seeing here is the inability of the present culture with present technology to build something in the "old style". Present technology in construction is aimed at steel, concrete and glass and large structures are built with that, but the knowledge on how to make large stone blocks and build a pyramid with them is nonexistent because it is not needed. And despite the claims of this culture that it could do anything that people in the past could do much easier, this is not quite true if one asks for an exact replica and not something that only looks similar.

ancient people didn't wake up over night prepared and started to build such constructions.

No of course not, but they did not start with the big pyramids either. They had some hundreds of years to practice masonry on smaller monuments.
Much of why the pyramids are so impressive is because they show immense dedication to build them - and an immense investment of resources and human labor. This is something almost unthinkable in present times and if it would happen, it would be called fascism because basically that is what it was.

auroraglacialis : I recommend you to watch more of History Channel documentaries about the same subject. Lots of proof that aliens helped people to build huge structures and constructions. Those guys know what they're talking about, they're Ph.D's, not some other guys speaking about UFO's and ancient aliens.

I appreciate the tipp, but I think I will not watch "History" Channel for those kinds of information. That would be like watching FOX "News" and expect real news. There are some good documentaries about these things out there but I would not really expect that specific channel to send them. And indeed I am having a PhD myself, so I am not impressed by that title per se, though I would argue that it is more than: "stuck through university long enough to submit a research paper on something very specific". At least when I started with this, we had to learn plenty of topics. I did courses in biology, chemistry, geology, some anthropology and history, mathematics, physics, earth history and ecology. I even did some Mars geology and quite a bit of resource geology. So at least in our university and in my faculty we did get a broad knowledgebase and the tools to evaluate if someone is telling nonsense or not about these topics. We are of course no experts in all of these fields, but I dare to say that I know more about biology and chemistry than someone who dropped these before going to college. Of course if a PhD in computer science talks something about archaeology, I would also be a bit careful - maybe he has done some good collaboration but maybe he just has his own ideas...still all of them would have to know what the scientific method is, how to create experiments and hypothesis and how to determine if a result is significant or not.

Originally Posted by Tsawke`Iheyu

And what do you believe in ? That we are alone in the Universe and suddenly the ancient people knowledge of making fire, build mega-structures and do astronomy came from nowhere ?

a) we are not alone even if there would be no life on other planets
b) if we did not get visits by aliens, why would that mean that there is no life on other planets? Maybe the universe is full of life, just none of them visited the Earth within the past some-thousands of years.
c) its not exactly that humans "suddenly" invented any of these capabilities. Some thousands of years are quite some time. Imagine what the world looks like in just 50 years from now and you already have to stretch your imagination - why would 1000 years development of knowledge in astronomy be called a "sudden" development. The only thing that is really a bit puzzling is what brought people to become sedentary agriculturalists and as a consequence build all these monuments. What turned a species that lived by hunting and gathering for 200000 years and more to break their backs by doing agriculture and by that reducing lifespan, health and child survival rates as well as body height and brain size. Why?

Originally Posted by applejuice

Leonardo da Vinci was abducted by some aliens and that's the reason of his geniality!

LOL - why do these people think that humans are such dumb idiots. I mean it is understandable - as an alien looking to Earth I surely would think so if I look at the TV channels and at the self-destrucive behaviour of the dominant culture. But as a human - why do we think that humans are incapable of doing something big - why the need for a god or aliens to explain that.

Oh and I thought by the way that the thing about Leonardo was already solved a long time ago by people saying that he travelled in time to the 20th century LOL.

[Clarke]

Originally Posted by auroraglacialis

a) we are not alone even if there would be no life on other planets

That expression is usually used to mean that we, as the only known intelligent species, are alone.

[applejuice]

I am suspiciously thinking about what History and Ancient Aliens are going to tell us next: Wernher von Braun was an Alien. That the famous Apollo 8 quote "Houston, be advised that there is a Santa Claus" was a coded message alerting of some lunar alien base in the dark side of the Moon. Somehow, Aliens found out that Jim Lovell was in Apollo 13 and decided it was too risky to let him set foot in the Moon and they caused the accident of the Servide Module. What else???? Ah, yes, that aliens provided the necessary technologies to NASA to get to the Moon *and contradict the other assertions.
What else can we expect from a channel like History???? And, sadly, NatGeo is going in the same path...

[iron_jones]

Originally Posted by Clarke

That expression is usually used to mean that we, as the only known intelligent species, are alone.

Dolphins, man. Dolphins.