So who's eywa?

[Neytiryä Muntxatan]

Originally Posted by Nrra Utral Ayseoä'ite

I'll tell you who's Eywa.

My true Goddess to believe in.
I tell you why:
Once, sitting on the toilet with huge pain in my stomach (that kind of pain when you almost wish for death) I started to pray to Eywa. Believe it or not, my pain went away. Then I realized the Great Mother exists and heard me.

My belief completed itself yesterday, when oeyä Sa'nok told me her grandmother feels much better.
On 17th this month my Mother's grandmother, a more than 98 and a half years old lady, broke her bone which I don't know in English, but it doesn't matter. She was brought to hospital. The doctors always made excuses on why they don't operate on her. On 20th I couldn't stop myself crying when we visited her and the doctors said maybe on Monday..
Now she was operated and feels surprisingly better.. that she would like to walk away! (femur/thigh bone's neck was broken)
I always got the news from my Mother, who got the information from hers. (via telephone) My grandma went to the hospital quite often.
So, on 17th (I think..,) I prayed to Eywa for help and to send Atokirina's there. The next day my Mom tells me her grandma feels no pain and doesn't understand why she is in hospital. (I know Eywa made that happen.)
I sent Atokirina's on Monday, too. I also visited my grandma that day, she told me her Sa'nok opened her eyes. (after the operation)
And yesterday my Mom told me what I've already written down. So yesterday evening I gave my thanks to Eywa and told Her I completely believe in Her (& not in the "God" society made for themselves..).
Eywa proved me She is true.

Oh, another thing. My Sa'nok's grandma dreams to live 100 - and she is just 1,5 years apart from that. Eywa may help.
~

So that's my story and that's why I believe in the Nawma Sa'nok.

Nice Story, I believe you. Eywa really exists. I feel her too . I saw her in the "infinity Dimension".(there where we all get when we die). I had an accident as a child, I was fallen down from 3 floor parking space on my head. The Ambulance brought me to the hospital. In this Surgery I was 4 min dead. In this 4 min I Saw the eye of Eywa(After Avatar I had a name for it.) My Grandmother ( she died 1 year before the accident happend said to me, it isn't the right moment to get back "Home". I must go back and follow the plan that I get by my home. I ask her will I see her again? She answer "ya but not in your Home" how? I ask her, she:"you will see it, look at your soul and go back" I looked at myself and i was surprised I don't look like a human. My soul is looking like a Na'vi (after Avatar I had a name for my soul "race") I heard a beautiful song that I never hearded before and after it.
And Something was towing me back to this Dimension.
And I woke up in hospital and I was Happy. After this Moment my life changed the marks in school was better, I was not anymore a messy Person. And my brain has changed. ( I don't have a splinted brain, with a left and a right half)

What I wanna say when Eywa can heal People and exists before Avatar. Has JC stolen Avatar from a higher Force

[Nrra Utral Ayseoä'ite]

Originally Posted by Neytiryä Muntxatan

Nice Story, I believe you. Eywa really exists. I feel her too . I saw her in the "infinity Dimension".(there where we all get when we die). I had an accident as a child, I was fallen down from 3 floor parking space on my head. The Ambulance brought me to the hospital. In this Surgery I was 4 min dead. In this 4 min I Saw the eye of Eywa(After Avatar I had a name for it.) My Grandmother ( she died 1 year before the accident happend said to me, it isn't the right moment to get back "Home". I must go back and follow the plan that I get by my home. I ask her will I see her again? She answer "ya but not in your Home" how? I ask her, she:"you will see it, look at your soul and go back" I looked at myself and i was surprised I don't look like a human. My soul is looking like a Na'vi (after Avatar I had a name for my soul "race") I heard a beautiful song that I never hearded before and after it.
And Something was towing me back to this Dimension.
And I woke up in hospital and I was Happy. After this Moment my life changed the marks in school was better, I was not anymore a messy Person. And my brain has changed. ( I don't have a splinted brain, with a left and a right half)

What I wanna say when Eywa can heal People and exists before Avatar. Has JC stolen Avatar from a higher Force

Oh, what a story..
I also feel my soul Na'vi but I have a body and a behaviour which I have to work on to become a complete Na'vi. (and a hair )
What is a not-splinted brain like? I mean, how to live with it; how does it work? (I'm interested in biology )
Eywa ngahu
~

[iron_jones]

Originally Posted by Nrra Utral Ayseoä'ite

I also feel my soul Na'vi but I have a body and a behaviour which I have to work on to become a complete Na'vi.

Growing 4 feet and living in a jungle would be a start.

[Neytiryä Muntxatan]

Originally Posted by Nrra Utral Ayseoä'ite

Oh, what a story..
I also feel my soul Na'vi but I have a body and a behaviour which I have to work on to become a complete Na'vi. (and a hair )
What is a not-splinted brain like? I mean, how to live with it; how does it work? (I'm interested in biology )
Eywa ngahu
~

A brain has 2 halfs, a left and a right half, a not splinted brain hasn't got a left and a right side it has one full "half". i dont have a trench in the middle of the brain (the trench in the middle of the brain/Pic).
It's special to live with that because have it my whole life long. thereby i dont know how it is. too live without that.
Because of my brain i've got the problem that my Social skills are worse but my logical skills, like science, are some of the best.
Unfortunaly i feel a less of emotions, which other Peoble can Feel, i only feel Sadness, Happiness (when i'm succesfull in life), and secureness.
Sometimes i've got a lot of problems when i talk to other people
because they dont understand what i wanna say.

how do you work on to become a na'vi? Im work on too

Eywa ngahu

[Raptor]

The truth is that Eywa is a fictional entity created by James Cameron. In the movie, it serves as a literary device. While you can embrace the message that the film is trying to convey, don't lose touch with reality.

[Niri Te]

That is very very True Raptor, (THANKS for your post, I wish that i could get a "Bumper sticker" of that). What if the person to whom you were referring, was not coming up with a "New God" based on a movie, but just using a name from the movie that is synonymous with "Gaia" the Earth's life force? I personally believe that the Judeo-Christian God is both Male and Female, and so to me, Gaia is just a name for the Female aspects of God's personality, NOT a separate Godess. I use Eywa as a Synonym for Gaia when I am speaking with AVATAR fans, because there is One God, and that God is everywhere. In my mind, when I say Eywa Ngahu, I am saying "God be with you", but in a different language.

[iron_jones]

"I believe that all religions are equally true; it must be that, Otherwise they're all equally false."

-Sir John Tavener

[auroraglacialis]

The beauty that I see in the idea of Eywa or Gaia as a "goddess" is that it is at the same time one and many. Eywa is made up of all living things on Pandora, especially plants who are permanently connected to each other but also animals which connect at some times. But at the same time it is one entity. The same would be true for a Earth Gaia. A being that is made up of many beings. The wind and the rivers and the living beings in a forest are a part of her but also exist by themselves. In an animistic worldview one can thus adress parts of the whole (as wind spirit, spirits of the forest or such) but also the whole of it, Gaia. It is a monotheistic and polytheistic spirituality at the same time and the truth is that many monotheistic religion have such polytheistic elements (saints in christianity, judaism even speaks of god in pluaral) and many polytheistic religions have it as well (Hindusim has many gods but they are all manifestations - or Avatars - of only a few or even only one).

[Raptor]

Don't know about you, but I don't experience any kind of "spirituality" when I'm in the woods. Perhaps that's attributed to the times I live in. But historically, we sure have a tendency of assigning deities to things/phenomena we don't understand.

[Niri Te]

So then "The big bang" just HAPPENED by a chance accident? The Math and Science that we DO know about what happened at that moment argues very strongly against that. The statistical probabilities of that happening are beyond comprehension. There HAD to be a design. There was an intelligence involved.

[auroraglacialis]

Originally Posted by Raptor

Don't know about you, but I don't experience any kind of "spirituality" when I'm in the woods. Perhaps that's attributed to the times I live in. But historically, we sure have a tendency of assigning deities to things/phenomena we don't understand.

I think it probably is part the times we live in - or the place you live in, but maybe also willful blindness. Of course it is individual experience, but I am pretty sure that it is a lot harder to experience any feeling of unity, of light or connectedness (you may call it a "spiritual experience") if you are in a city or in the middle of corn fields or in a forest that is just a managed tree farm as opposed to a wild forest or wide untouched spaces with at least largely free animals. I also imagine that it is a lot harder to experience such a feeling if the thinking mind keeps jumping in with attempts of scientific explanations for everything. This is why often people seeking such experiences do meditate or trances to minimize the influence of the thinking and reasoning mind on the experience and be open for other forms of knowledge. That is of course never a state to stay in - it is always a journey but the experiences stay. The explanation that people always just were too damn stupid or lacked science to explain something and thus invented deities and spirituality to explain these things is a very simplistic one. It does not explain at all why there is such an emotional response neither does it explain why many scientists in these days still are spiritual or religious - just because we have some knowledge on the physical or chemical processes that are connected to things we see in the natural world does not have to minimize the wonder and awe we can feel (in part though only if we temporarily let go of the thinking mind which tries to minimize these experiences as "it is just this and that chemical phenomenon").
I personally feel something special if I am at the top of a mountain, looking over all the other mountains nearby or to sit in the shade of a tree in the African savannah, watching wild animals climbing the rock wall nearby, or even taking a break during driving in a lonely valley near the spring of a river where no one else is near. I am a geologist and know how mountains are formed and rivers flow - but for these moments I do not think about plate tectonics and thrust belts and hydrological cycles, I just see and feel mountains and rivers and savannah and the absence of chatter of people (including my own).

[Niri Te]

I studied Aerospace Engineering and Physics in College, and BECAUSE I studied these things, I get a great Appreciation for HOW God went about CREATING the entire Universe by using the "Laws of Science" that God brought into being to RUN the universe by. Science does NOT disprove the existence of God, Rather it does the opposite. One of the very first things that I will do when I see God face to face, is ask, "Please teach me the Science that you created to form what we call the Big Bang. Please show me what happened just before the explosion that brought time and space into being".

[Nrra Utral Ayseoä'ite]

Originally Posted by iron_jones

Growing 4 feet and living in a jungle would be a start.

U lost Ur mind?
I mean, are U sick? I've told you to leave me alone & Eywa ngahu 'cause U need Her very-very much.
I don't understand you.. That's Y I'm not a complete Na'vi yet; I can't see you.. But I will once, but please, LEAVE ME ALONE forever. Rutxe.
~

[Nrra Utral Ayseoä'ite]

Originally Posted by Neytiryä Muntxatan

A brain has 2 halfs, a left and a right half, a not splinted brain hasn't got a left and a right side it has one full "half". i dont have a trench in the middle of the brain (the trench in the middle of the brain/Pic).
It's special to live with that because have it my whole life long. thereby i dont know how it is. too live without that.
Because of my brain i've got the problem that my Social skills are worse but my logical skills, like science, are some of the best.
Unfortunaly i feel a less of emotions, which other Peoble can Feel, i only feel Sadness, Happiness (when i'm succesfull in life), and secureness.
Sometimes i've got a lot of problems when i talk to other people
because they dont understand what i wanna say.

how do you work on to become a na'vi? Im work on too

Eywa ngahu

Thank You, that's enough. Well, I have some social problems too.... But that's another "illness"..

Being a Na'vi has two parts. You can be a Na'vi with your soul and with your body. It doesn't mean you have to live in the jungle or you have to be blue and have a tail, etc.. (four fingers....) That's what skypeople think of being a Na'vi.
Well, for me it's making a "Tsaheylutswin" (I call that big long braid like that), from my own hair, of course, which is dark blonde (not black ×D ).
For my body I have tasks, steps.
First: build muscle (on hands, legs, belly, bottom) - I am here ×D
I'm not fat but I'm not strong enough.
Second: do "Na'vi exercises" So the Na'vi walk, jumps, things like that.
Third: forest-trainings. (it's more dangerous, but I'm far from that.)
I'm not a crazy fanatic, I just take it serious. It's a lifestyle for me.
For a Na'vi soul: I believe in Eywa, because She showed me I should.
What I have to work on this soul-part is my behaviour. If you have seen Avatar you know what is this. Mostly it's wisdom, honesty, never hide emotions, tolerate, accept and understand others. I can't separate this into steps, it's an evolution. And I'm on the right path
(I'm sorry for this hardly understandable message but I'm Hungarian ^^')

[Niri Te]

I understand you PERFECTLY ma tsmuk