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Originally Posted by Spock
Your title is extremely misleading, it insinuates that only the right can be environmentalists
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I don't see that in it myself. 'Conservative/libertarian environmentalists' does not mean 'all environmentalists are conservative/libertarian', it means 'some conservatives/libertarians are also environmentalists'.
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Poor example. When individuals work togethor to make something get done, like the November revolution in 1917 Russia, that makes it a collective movement.
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And look at the result - the murders, the work camps, the eventual economic collapse and total failure...
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Oh, but why would they do that if they're risking revolution?
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Because governments get complacent, and start taking liberties. When that happens, eventually you end up with them kicked out, either democratically, or by a revolution.