Conservative/Libertarian Environmentalist Unite!!!

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Originally Posted by PunkMaister

No I did not, I made clear I was talking about the Radical left and not the left in general so sorry in this case you are wrong, try again.

Actually no. You've failed to adress my concern. I stated that environmentalism should not be stickied to either the right or the left. You have done this, clearly a ploy on your part to associate people like me, leftists, with environmental destruction, as only Libertarians can be environmentalists, which is wrong. Therefore you would gain support. While inedvertantly painting the left in bad light.

Advice for everyone: PunkMaister is clearly on a crusade against me and the left of politics. Ignore this and focus on the real issues.

Originally Posted by Woodsprite

Woah woah woah, back up the paddywagon.

"Blind and retarded"? It's worked for America for the past 234 years... Worked the same for the U.K. as well (although the government has slightly more control there). We may not be doing too well these days, but capitalism has nothing to do with any recession that's going on.

Exactly, and I'm not denying the history, I am merely making a logical judgement on how capitalism will react to the coming problems within 50-100 years. Simply, blind and retarded.

Originally Posted by Human No More

I don't see that in it myself. 'Conservative/libertarian environmentalists' does not mean 'all environmentalists are conservative/libertarian', it means 'some conservatives/libertarians are also environmentalists'.

No.... it doesn't. It doesn't allow room for 'some'. It insinuates that all conservative/libertarians are environmentalists, then it is only natural that the opposite, the socialists are not environmentalists, which is untrue. The vast majority of people will start to associate the right with environmentalism. Therefore bringing environmentalists over to the right bolstering their numbers.

Originally Posted by Human No More

And look at the result - the murders, the work camps, the eventual economic collapse and total failure...

That was not the issue, don't extend the debate, that is for another time. I was merely helping PunkMaister with his definitions.

Originally Posted by Human No More

Because governments get complacent, and start taking liberties. When that happens, eventually you end up with them kicked out, either democratically, or by a revolution.

You rarely see this anymore.