"Avatar Forums" Partnered With "Tree of Souls"

[madman]

Originally Posted by caveman

It's not really "a potent mix". It's the opposite. Its a seperation. A seperation of a bunch of great people. It's really sad, that it came to this.

I agree tsmukan… It saddens me that there was a divide in the first place. For me to know the great people on this forum, new and old AF members included, I will now be being an active member on both sites.

Originally Posted by caveman

I don't blame anyone, and I'm not trying to demote this site. What I'm saying is I think this "solution" only made matters worse, and I hate to see it this way.

I wish I was around more in the beginning. Who knows maybe I could have helped?

Originally Posted by caveman

I've heard a lot of this talk about how great having two forums would be. I've heard a lot about how splitting in two would somehow "strengthen" the communities. Honestly I havent seen any "strengthening" "bonding" or general bettering of any community. None of this makes sense to me. How a bunch of loving and great people could divide. Again, I'm not blaming you guys. I'm not trying to bring up old problems and start fights. What I'm trying to do is simple, yet seemingly impossible. I'm trying to bring people together. Despite differences, despite conflicts, we are all great people. So what are we doing apart?

It is kind of an oxymoron for those who can see Avatar’s wonderful message dividing for seemingly unimportant reasons. We are all on these forums to talk of our love for Avatar, how it has changed us, the great message JC has, the love story of Neytiri and Jake, and the realization that humans can be sooo very cruel. Why are we worried about such petty things and why do we let it divide us when the message is so very clear. Love, Truthfullness, living as one with nature.

Originally Posted by caveman

It may seem impossible, or too late to go back, to unite forums, but I believe otherwise. I believe we are all fantastic people capable of coming together with full love and acceptence, despite old problems. I believe we are fully capable of finding real solutions to such problems.

I only know a little about what happened with the break up, and honestly, I don't care. I think it's all in the past, and its time to move on. Time to bring people together.

I agree! That is why I have joined your Avatar-Forums.com AF ToS Unification group!

Originally Posted by caveman

You might say there's no need for a unification. That people have a choice which forum to come to. But looking around this thread, so many people stay here and won't post on the old one. I just don't understand the point of it all? I mean, what's the point of making a new forum if all the discussions are the nearly the same? If the reason for this forum was a stronger community, then that is the reason for unifying one. If the reason was because of the admins, then we have things to work out, but they can be worked out.

I know what you all want - that "old avatarforums" feel. I felt it go away a little too. But then I looked closer, and on a couple threads, one of which, the PAD thread, there's 5-6 awesome people there. They cheer me up, they help me, I help them, its really a fantastic community. Then I look here, and there's more awesome people under the same thread. So I wonder, why aren't we together?

I found that this is where my tsmukan Stanley has been… so sad that such great people have felt in the past that they need to pick a forum to be on.

Originally Posted by caveman

Again, this isn't to blame anyone. I don't care about the blame or who did what or whatever. I just want to see people together. "people together" - is that a bad thought? What do you guys think? Because I think this seperation is really contradicting the spirit of Avatar. It contradicts what brought us all here in the first place - wanting a community like the na'vi. That's what brought dreamers and idealists from all around the world together. Its really something powerful. So is the reason to stay seperated more powerful than the force that brought us together?

I hope I leave you with something to think about. "bringing people together" Thats the idea. You are all wonderful people, and honestly, I miss you. I like what you have here, this site. It's nice, and I like it maybe better than AF, but I'm not looking to join two sites. I think we're better than that. I'm obsessed with the idea of bringing everyone together in the same house. It's something that would really be amazing. Rarely is such a thing accomplished -people together with full love despite conflict. Anyways, thanks for the read...

CVMN

All well said tsmukan caveman. Something like this can only be accomplished if pongu want it.

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