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Old 05-06-2010, 09:02 AM
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It's more the fact that more haemoglobin needs to be produced in the bloodstream as to capture more oxygen.
Obviously hence the increased lung capacity as the higher you go the less oxygen there is...



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I don't think we do. I want my kid to be 100% me and my partner.
Given the fact that you have openly stated that you support genocide by means of neglect in Africa I find your answer as the actual Spock would say "Fascinating"



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This is a narrow view of how events could unfold, there are countless other possibilities.
When you place 2 sentient species together and one is obviously more advanced in every way than the other one inevitably they would question as to why treat their obviously inferior counterparts as equals. So whether is sentient machines or a race of genetically enhanced humans the problem that arises is the same.

Inevitably either one will try to either subjugate or exterminate their inferior counterparts.
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Old 05-06-2010, 10:03 AM
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Obviously hence the increased lung capacity as the higher you go the less oxygen there is...
I'm talking about haemoglobin not lung capacity. Two sides of the same coin buddy.

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Given the fact that you have openly stated that you support genocide by means of neglect in Africa I find your answer as the actual Spock would say "Fascinating"
This is not pertinent to the issue in question.

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When you place 2 sentient species together and one is obviously more advanced in every way than the other one inevitably they would question as to why treat their obviously inferior counterparts as equals. So whether is sentient machines or a race of genetically enhanced humans the problem that arises is the same.

Inevitably either one will try to either subjugate or exterminate their inferior counterparts.
Yes, that's Gause's competitive exclusion principle. What I was refering to was, you are assuming that we would create artificial sentient species or machines. On a second not, we cannot assume that machines follow Gause's principle.
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Old 05-06-2010, 03:49 PM
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Yes, that's Gause's competitive exclusion principle. What I was refering to was, you are assuming that we would create artificial sentient species or machines. On a second not, we cannot assume that machines follow Gause's principle.
1. Actually we would in order to do as Tsyal Makto suggest to build computer models that could predict any and all possible damaging deviations when it comes to gene splicing an such. Because no computer model could do that unless machines actually become smart as in intelligent, as in sentient.


2. If they are A. Sentient and B. Superior why would they not?
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Old 05-07-2010, 05:58 AM
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1. Actually we would in order to do as Tsyal Makto suggest to build computer models that could predict any and all possible damaging deviations when it comes to gene splicing an such. Because no computer model could do that unless machines actually become smart as in intelligent, as in sentient.
So does Tsyal Makto dictate what happens in the future now?

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2. If they are A. Sentient and B. Superior why would they not?
OK, it seems your a fan of giving machines superiority programming. Rip your shorts just don't bring it anywhere near me.
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Old 05-08-2010, 03:24 PM
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So does Tsyal Makto dictate what happens in the future now?
WTF? If genetic engineering to redesign the whole human body from scratch as he and many others want is to be viable you would need really powerful AI machines that could forecast and predict every possible genetic deviation that there could be. There is no other way around if Transhmanism as they want it is to take place. The consequences would be off course that you'd end up creating machines that are smarter than humans and thus superior.



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OK, it seems your a fan of giving machines superiority programming. Rip your shorts just don't bring it anywhere near me.
BS! I'm stating the fact of what creating actual sentient machines would imply.
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