So desperately sad... in need of support

[Tsyal Makto]

Originally Posted by Migg3006

WOW totally agree with you, that is what I was saying by "Soon or later you always have to wake up" In my other post.

I know, and I disagree. We don't have to "wake up" at all, we are woken up right now! All we need to do to fight society is to see what society is - ideas - nothing more. There are no physical barriers keeping us from living the way we truly want to, only the ideas of society we are indoctrinated with.

It's kind of like the Matrix. To most people, the Matrix was a physical trap, something that was inescapable, and even when given the option of leaving, most people would simply turn it down, choosing the comfort of the Matrix. Sound familiar? It's the same situation today with modern society. We are told that getting an education and getting a job is something we have to do, and the alternatives, such as being a vagabond or living in the wild, are living hells. Any one of the billions of people within the Matrix could have escaped, but they believed the lie of the Matrix to be the truth.

And like in the Matrix, Neo saw the construct for what it really was, just a bunch of computer language, nothing more. We are like Neo, we See what modern society really is, just a bunch of ideas, nothing more. And like Neo, we can use our Seeing to fight for our freedom. To simply shut our eyes, and "wake up," as you say, would be the biggest mistake in our short lives we could ever make.

[Earthlover18]

Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto

I know, and I disagree. We don't have to "wake up" at all, we are woken up right now! All we need to do to fight society is to see what society is - ideas - nothing more. There are no physical barriers keeping us from living the way we truly want to, only the ideas of society we are indoctrinated with.

It's kind of like the Matrix. To most people, the Matrix was a physical trap, something that was inescapable, and even when given the option of leaving, most people would simply turn it down, choosing the comfort of the Matrix. Sound familiar? It's the same situation today with modern society. We are told that getting an education and getting a job is something we have to do, and the alternatives, such as being a vagabond or living in the wild, are living hells. Any one of the billions of people within the Matrix could have escaped, but they believed the lie of the Matrix to be the truth.

And like in the Matrix, Neo saw the construct for what it really was, just a bunch of computer language, nothing more. We are like Neo, we See what modern society really is, just a bunch of ideas, nothing more. And like Neo, we can use our Seeing to fight for our freedom. To simply shut our eyes, and "wake up," as you say, would be the biggest mistake in our short lives we could ever make.

I agree 110% Tsyal Makto. Avatar and The Matrix (1st one) are my 2 favorite movies (Avatar 1st of course). Together, the intertwining message of a blind and ignorant society and a fading respect for life/ nature illustrates my lease on life. I completley refuse to conform to what modern society expects of me. Not saying I am going to be a couch potato and waste it all, i'll still get a college degree and a job protecting the environment, but more in the sense of being who I am and "waking up" from the indoctrination.

[Migg3006]

Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto

I know, and I disagree. We don't have to "wake up" at all, we are woken up right now! All we need to do to fight society is to see what society is - ideas - nothing more. There are no physical barriers keeping us from living the way we truly want to, only the ideas of society we are indoctrinated with.

It's kind of like the Matrix. To most people, the Matrix was a physical trap, something that was inescapable, and even when given the option of leaving, most people would simply turn it down, choosing the comfort of the Matrix. Sound familiar? It's the same situation today with modern society. We are told that getting an education and getting a job is something we have to do, and the alternatives, such as being a vagabond or living in the wild, are living hells. Any one of the billions of people within the Matrix could have escaped, but they believed the lie of the Matrix to be the truth.

And like in the Matrix, Neo saw the construct for what it really was, just a bunch of computer language, nothing more. We are like Neo, we See what modern society really is, just a bunch of ideas, nothing more. And like Neo, we can use our Seeing to fight for our freedom. To simply shut our eyes, and "wake up," as you say, would be the biggest mistake in our short lives we could ever make.

Yes I know, and I agree with all your points, but what I mean by "soon or later you always have to wake up" is for example, when you go take a walk in wood to forgot about the problem of the society, you can't stay in the wood for ever, you always have to back to the society, at your work or school, because you can't survived without the society. this is how I see it, maybe you can light my path.

After I have read auroraglacialis post it's clearer, thanks for his or her message.

I don't want my post to be misunderstand, and start debating I just want to show why I wrote "soon or later.....".

[Tsyal Makto]

Originally Posted by Migg3006

Yes I know, and I agree with all your points, but what I mean by "soon or later you always have to wake up" is for example, when you go take a walk in wood to forgot about the problem of the society, you can't stay in the wood for ever, you always have to back to the society, at your work or school, because you can't survived without the society. this is how I see it, maybe you can light my path.

After I have read auroraglacialis post it's clearer, thanks for his or her message.

I don't want my post to be misunderstand, and start debating I just want to show why I wrote "soon or later.....".

Well, that is just another one of society's ideas that we are led to believe. People survive without society all the time, it is just a matter of taking the effort to become self sufficient. While living in the wild is no cake-walk, it is not a living hell either, that is just something we are told to keep us in line with modern ideals.

Check out the Revolutionists, and you'll see just how possible it is to live without being entangled to society.

@Eltu - No problem, ma tsmukan, we're always glad to help!

[Migg3006]

I will check for sure. thanks