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05-15-2010, 06:13 PM
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05-17-2010, 07:21 AM
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I will be honest. I really don't like the thought of being able to remotely control a human brain. That just sounds morally wrong.
While I think it will be cool to jump into a virtual reality for recreation, I strongly oppose being able to permanently alter and enhance. I love math and science, but for me, mind control really destroys the essence of humanity. We are born to be different, and the various strengths and weaknesses of human beings are what make us colorful. I hate the thought of having a "perfect" race in the future. It will remove competition, and make the whole world dull. While we can certainly eradicate the evils of man, I don't think that mind control is the way to go. It will remove the meaning of life, and our motivation to achieve more. The idea of nanobots controlling our minds makes me think of the story "Harrion Bergeron" and the movie "Gattaca". We would essentially be removing our freedom if we do so.
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05-18-2010, 05:22 AM
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I don't like the idea of a "perfect" race either, but it is important to clarify the difference between characteristics of people, and the weaknesses of people. It's our characteristics that make us unique - our height, our ethnicity, our personality, etc. It's also why I support people being allowed to take whatever bodily form they want to. Our world would be even more diverse and unique if people could have the option of being a human, a Na'vi or anything else that they feel they truly are on the inside.  On the other hand, we need to work to eliminate our weaknesses, such as diseases, cancers, and other health problems.And I am begining to doubt that nanobots will be doing the job, too. Judging by recent happenings in the scientific community, it looks like it will be a system like that nanotube system I posted the article about. And don't worry, you would be in complete control.
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05-21-2010, 05:05 AM
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Why do we eagerly pursue technologies like this despite the real potential for abuse and accidents? What is it in the idea of a virtual world and mind linking that makes us want it so badly? I would argue, it is because in forgotten times we had such a world, a spirit world where you could share thoughts and feelings with plants and animals. There are a few even today who can do this, such as the ayahuasqueros of the Amazon.
Imagine you walked in a digital Pandora while the real Earth continued to be stripmined and turned into a garbage heap. Imagine you flew on a software Ikran as the last real birds died and with them, your chance to know and See a living, spirited being--not some robot, not our cartoon idea of them. To flee into a digital Eden would be to mock and spit upon our real and living Gaia. Even this forum is no substitute for Her: remember, computers are made of plastic and heavy metals, fueled with electricity that probably comes from oil and coal. You speak of making a metal leg, when the smart thing is to stop cutting your own leg off!
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05-21-2010, 05:47 AM
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05-21-2010, 03:42 PM
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More tools for escapism, too bad that they will be too costly for the average Joe, and take ages before they can even be put to practical use.
I wish people would stop complaining about moral issues and cons, because those things are not because of the faults of technology, but the downside of human nature, and that is never going to change.
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05-28-2010, 03:38 AM
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Bump! With an interesting article on mind interfacing.
Porting Digital Memory | h+ Magazine The one that peaks my interest the most is the neurode, very promising! I can see them being used in artificial queues one day, and the best part is that they are mostly biological, not mechanical! Hopefully they come in ponytail form.  A situation like this calls for a... 
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05-31-2010, 06:07 AM
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EDIT - Moved to new thread.
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The Dreamer's Manifesto Mike Malloy, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. "You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling." - Inception "Man, I see in fight club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see squandering. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy **** we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off." - Tyler Durden Last edited by Tsyal Makto; 06-01-2010 at 02:10 AM.
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