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Old 07-01-2010, 10:37 AM
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I just don't understand WHY, Eltu. Why can't you decide who you would save?
What are the benefits of saving the bug? I am very curious, as I can name very few if any.
What's the benefits of saving the human? They are exactly the same as for saving the bug.

It's not about reason or logic here, it's not about benefits. It's about the very right to live. Who are we to decide who can live, and who can die?

The human is alive. The bug is alive. If I had to save one of them, I would not look at them as "a human" and "a bug". I would see them as "two living beings".

Therefore I would decide who to save, based on who would have the largest chance to survive.

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Old 07-01-2010, 01:24 PM
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What's the benefits of saving the human? They are exactly the same as for saving the bug.

It's not about reason or logic here, it's not about benefits. It's about the very right to live. Who are we to decide who can live, and who can die?

The human is alive. The bug is alive. If I had to save one of them, I would not look at them as "a human" and "a bug". I would see them as "two living beings".

Therefore I would decide who to save, based on who would have the largest chance to survive.

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Which brings us back to species loyalty imo...

To me, a human being is far more valuable asset to humanity than an insect. Now, perhaps the insect itself is special in some way to humanity, but that's a rare occurrence. Even if it is and we don't know it, I don't know that, and it wouldn't factor into my decision.


Going back on topic... Everybody needs support. If nobody in a group or species is willing to do that, they whole group will suffer. We help our own to achieve whatever it is that they're shooting for, assuming that such achievements are going to benefit the species in the long run. Either through the acquisition of knowledge or the invention of new technologies, its all going to benefit humanity, and thus the individual to some degree.

Now if your unhappy with your species, like I said, changing fine. However, you're probably not going to be welcome among your former compatriots if you do that. So be damned sure its what you want. Because there is literally no going back if you decide to throw your support behind a competing group.(which any species is going to be on some level)
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Old 07-01-2010, 06:56 PM
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What's the benefits of saving the human? They are exactly the same as for saving the bug.

It's not about reason or logic here, it's not about benefits. It's about the very right to live. Who are we to decide who can live, and who can die?

The human is alive. The bug is alive. If I had to save one of them, I would not look at them as "a human" and "a bug". I would see them as "two living beings".

Therefore I would decide who to save, based on who would have the largest chance to survive.

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Yet that person most likely has friends, family, people who depend on them, people who will miss them and be really sad if they are killed... a bug doesn't, and will be dead within a week anyway.

I would save them, not because they are human, but because they are sentient. If it was another sentient being instead of a human, I'd save them.
If it was a nonsentient animal that still is known to feel emotion, have relationships with each other, then they would not be a priority over a sentient being, but would be over an insect.
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