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06-30-2010, 06:37 AM
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ER Doctors Want To Ban Raves From California
I came across this when watching the news, and I was upset about what I heard. So in turn, I'm giving my two cents on what I think of this whole ordeal. This short essay was written under my notes in my facebook profile. I'm not saying anything should be banned, I'm just asking for some responsibility.
'ER doctors say, "This is basically a government-encouraged … drug fest. That’s the wrong message."' Well let me say my input... Isn't going to junior high or high school a government encouraged drug-fest? Is it not our own responsibility to take care of ourselves at such events? The general manager, Pat Lynch, says, '"Everything was done in an orderly fashion. When you’ve got 185,000 people coming to anything, there’s incidents .… Over the course of two days, stuff happens." Lynch noted that police were on hand to arrest people who possessed or were selling narcotics. It's others faults for not being responsible.' Lynch and the other planners, officers, and officials were doing their job. 'On Saturday night, police made 63 arrests for possession and sale of narcotics, trespassing and drinking in public, among other violations,' and they should be arrested. I've been to raves, and have never done a single drug or have taken any alcoholic beverage, and I have the greatest time there. Things will happen, especially at a place like Lynch said filled with thousands of party people. The government can't stop drug possession completely, there will be dealing and taking of drugs. Outlawing raves won't change that. I see where doctors are coming from about the welfare of others at such events though. For me I look at things in both sides, but outlawing raves won't change the drug possession. What needs to happen is people need to take a step back and think things through. Were some being responsible? Heck no, otherwise hundreds wouldn't have been trampled at the Will.I.Am show when the arena reached max capacity. ' Black Eyed Peas ringleader will.i.am managed to talk down an edgy crowd during his DJ set, admonishing brazen youths hell-bent on getting onto the field, who were jumping over security personnel and even cops to get there (and risking injury to themselves and vendors in tents nearby). "Stop acting stupid," he said. "We cannot continue until people act civilized. You should have come early like the party people." The "Where's the Love" rapper's plea seemed effective, with folks beginning to behave soon afterwards.' Lynch continues, '"Are we happy that there's drugs? No. But on the other hand, we take every step we can to minimize it," said Lynch. "There's a reason 185,000 people were here. They're quality events. My kids came and had a ball."' In the end, my $0.02, people need to be responsible. Raves shouldn't end. Doctors have every right to speak their minds about such. Drugs go much deeper than the rave scene though, stopping raves won't stop the drugs. I'm against drugs, so I'm not taking their side. People act stupid at soccer and football games, drinking beer, ect. Why not ban those? I've seen on TV all the crazy insane things that happen at those events, so again, why not ban those? Websites used: The 10 Best Moments of Electric Daisy Carnival | Spin Magazine Online Keep raves out of the Coliseum, doctors urge - latimes.com (Same sort of) ER doctors call for end to raves at L.A. Coliseum after scores fall ill, most from drug use | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times What are your opinions? Questions? Comments? Let me hear them
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06-30-2010, 08:59 AM
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Yeah, just because a few people make stupid decisions, doesn't mean we should all suffer. If someone does drugs, they suffer the consequences, not us.
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06-30-2010, 09:08 AM
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 I'm always horrified when I see that in the news, it's insane how people can not realize that IT'S ****ING FULL. Sorry I don't have much else to add to the topic, I don't go to raves, but I guess both parties are right. Stoping raves won't change the problem, but I know some dealers are literally preparing for big festivals and such, so it is partially catalist for drug use.
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06-30-2010, 04:19 PM
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Ayskxawng...
I'm really not into the whole thing there, but I understand that some people enjoy it responsibly... it's just a few people being idiots and causing problems for everyone else, which makes me sad  (that said, I think policies on drugs in general are too restrictive, there are some that should be banned and it's right they are but some harmless ones (talking less than alcohol/tobacco) should be legal anyway...)
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06-30-2010, 05:15 PM
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Either way this is a lawful assembly and is protected under the first amendment of the constitution, so long as they avoid disturbing others they are free to go to and hold as many raves as they please, whether or not I approve of such behavior does not even compute with the constitution. If we made laws on approval the USA would be a very different place then it is, I would not change a thing.
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06-30-2010, 05:18 PM
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Wasn't the right of association a Constitutional right? So as long as there are no drugs, they can't say anything about rave parties -apart from being loud; but that would be like having a garden without flowers, wouldn't it?
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07-02-2010, 02:22 AM
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07-02-2010, 04:17 AM
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Lol they might as well ban Metal concerts while they're at it since that's about x100 more dangerous.
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07-02-2010, 10:11 AM
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Yeah. That said, don't trust guys in lab coats. There was some guy on the news who did botched operations. (shakes fist)
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07-03-2010, 03:13 AM
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Like any pasttime which is not 'mainstream' by the public's general definition, it will come under fire from people who don't understand the 'scene' or only see one side of it. Raves have really driven a large part of the evolution of electronic music, and I would love to go to one some time in my area. Yes, there are always the goofs who approach it without a brain and do stupid things, but I would say the vast majority are simply involved so they can enjoy themselves- and that also goes for artists, DJ's, crew, and organizers.
I see the same thing with paintball, which I have played competitively (Technically semi-pro in Canada, Division 2-3 in the U.S.) for several years. You never see anything about the competitive, safe, sportsmanlike, and fun side of the game in the news. Rather, you'll only hear about it if some yahoo decided to buy a $40 Walmart gun and go shooting people on the street. Disappointing!
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07-03-2010, 11:11 PM
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07-04-2010, 12:49 AM
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The mainstream does suck, I love the underground bass pounding electronic, techno, trance, house, and dubstep music, and the amazing people to dance and converse with, the awesome styles (kandi ftw lol) the flashing lights from strobes and other effects and people giving out light shows with their rave gloves (need to get more batteries for mine) but I just love the whole scene.
And sorry I made a mistake in the title, the ER doctors want to ban raves from the Colosseum in LA, but still thats a huge thing, the Electric Daisy Carnival is what some people plan their year around... its a huge event
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07-04-2010, 05:20 AM
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07-04-2010, 01:54 PM
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The difference is, there is nowhere near as much drug use... almost all drug use within metal is stuff like pot (which should be legal anyway, don't get me started there...), and not all these more dangerous, synthetic drugs. I'd guess you've never actually been in a pit, it's not a fight, and if someone is actually being an idiot and intentionally trying to injure people, you do not want to see what (deservedly) happens to them. I've seen it, I've helped do it, because you do not act like that, not only does it give a bad reputation (as shown by the majority of people who don't understand), but we look out for each other. Banning anything never works, it just hurts average people while the people who couldn't care less will keep going on, if anything it would make things worse.
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