The Moon To Be Used As Humanity's "Toolkit" To Rebuild Race.

[ZenitYerkes]

I think we should worry about how to fix things here before going up there. Really. Millions of dollars could be used there, billions; why not spend that money on something that could avoid blowing ourselves up? Like, nuke neutralizers. That would be cool.

I guess we're getting to a no return point and the only hope for humanity is escaping from Earth. From what we've made of it.

[auroraglacialis]

Originally Posted by Human No More

As for mass extinction events, I assume it was talking more about threats to civilisation rather than biodiversity... as it is, such projects can store genetic sequences, cell samples, seeds of plants etc anyway.

Ah - ok, I'm sorry, that is probably true. I was thinking again about nature and not so much about civilization. True - if you want to just keep civilization alive, it would probably be sufficient to store data and methods to set up some kind of reboot of the same system. Still - if you really want that, it makes more sense to store it on Earth as then people could still go there, take seeds, use the technology there to read the data.

Originally Posted by ZenitYerkes

I guess we're getting to a no return point and the only hope for humanity is escaping from Earth. From what we've made of it.

If that is true and that point is near, then seriously we are ****ed. Because this is not going to be an option for probably many decades or even centuries. Space travel over long distances is SciFi. If you talk about a select few living on the moon - people could by the same reasoning also survive under these conditions on a devastated Earth.

I know the feeling of wanting to escape. I think many people on Earth today know that, at least the ones that realize what devastation is happening and are not still pretending that environmental destruction and finite resources are a lie. But the reactions are all so different.

Compare it to an escape from a building that quite obviously is unstable and about to collapse, but my path would be straight out of the door instead of climbing to the roof hoping for the unlikely chance for a helicopter ride to another building.

Likewise it does not really make sense to hope for some miracle solution that manages to save billions of people to space (or do you think you would be among the 1000 or 10000 or 100000 chosen if it came to it?) if there is a much more realistic and tangible way - basically save the land, keep the condition of this planet in a state that ensures your survival. At all costs. Whatever it takes.

Think of the two alternatives you and me proposed here - either get some spaceship or moon colony going with some few survivors of the humans race packed into a generation ship or stop civilization as we know it and the many survivors of that change would live differently - without supermarkets and cars. Guess what, you dont have supermarkets and cars in space either. The living conditions of such a crammed space colony would really not compare to life on Earth under "uncivilized" conditions, or would you think so?

A problem with my argument obviously is that your solution is something that people would just have to go on like they did before, just try harder, work more, spend more money and then believe it is reachable, while my proposed solution would require to step out of this track. Sadly the latter is something people are not used to and thus less likely to accept while the first solution is something perfectly along the line of thinking that has ruled the world in the past years. So admittedly, I have a harder stand here, but I hold it more sane.

[Human No More]

Originally Posted by ZenitYerkes

I think we should worry about how to fix things here before going up there. Really. Millions of dollars could be used there, billions; why not spend that money on something that could avoid blowing ourselves up? Like, nuke neutralizers. That would be cool.

I guess we're getting to a no return point and the only hope for humanity is escaping from Earth. From what we've made of it.

If you've invented one, go ahead.
Oh wait, you haven't.

[ZenitYerkes]

Originally Posted by Human No More

If you've invented one, go ahead.
Oh wait, you haven't.

Great powers of deduction you possess, I see.

[ISV Venture Star]

Originally Posted by ZenitYerkes

I think we should worry about how to fix things here before going up there.

Somewhere, James Cameron just vomited.