Snow on the Hallelujah Mountains? - Tree of Souls - An Avatar Community Forum
Tree of Souls - An Avatar Community Forum
Tree of Souls has now been upgraded to an all-new forum platform and will be temporarily located at tree-of-souls.net. This version of the forum will remain for archival reasons, but is locked for further posting. All existing accounts and posts have been moved over to the new site, so please go to tree-of-souls.net and log in with your regular credentials!
Go Back   Tree of Souls - An Avatar Community Forum » Avatar » Pandora
FAQ Community Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-06-2010, 02:56 AM
Ashen Key's Avatar
Ashen Key Ashen Key is offline
Ikran Makto
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 796
Send a message via AIM to Ashen Key
Default Snow on the Hallelujah Mountains?

This struck me last night, while I was watching a David Attenborough documentry, and now it's really bothering me.

High altitude generally equals snow (not matter the latitude), and no one can argue that the Hallelujah Mountains are pretty high up. But it's warm enough that Trudy runs around in a singlet half the time, and Jake tends to wear just those t-shirts. Not, say, jackets, or huddling around a heater.

Anyone have idea why the mountains aren't covered in snow, even during the night?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-06-2010, 03:09 AM
Isard's Avatar
Isard Isard is offline
Old Guard
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,396
Send a message via Skype™ to Isard
Default

Pandora's a tropical environment. Warm year round.
__________________
:psyduck:
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-06-2010, 03:12 AM
Ashen Key's Avatar
Ashen Key Ashen Key is offline
Ikran Makto
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 796
Send a message via AIM to Ashen Key
Default

....yes, but that doesn't answer the question. After all, you can ski in Hawaii. It's a question of altitude, not weather.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-06-2010, 03:14 AM
Isard's Avatar
Isard Isard is offline
Old Guard
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,396
Send a message via Skype™ to Isard
Default

Pandora's a tiny hothouse, the warm temperatures most likely extend up to that altitude.
__________________
:psyduck:
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-06-2010, 03:35 AM
Patrice Maire's Avatar
Patrice Maire Patrice Maire is offline
Taronyu
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 429
Default

Who's to say there isn't a latitude/altitude elsewhere on the planet that has snow? Maybe the plains get snow in the winter?
Also, perhaps we were only there during the 'summer' months? The movie only takes place in a three month period. Who knows what it's like the rest of the year?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-06-2010, 08:48 AM
rasomaso's Avatar
rasomaso rasomaso is offline
Nawmtu
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Czech Republic, Prague
Posts: 1,067
Default

It's possible that the mountains aren't that high above sea level, they could be just 2 km above the sea level, which would mean there is no snow when combined with the tropical weather. The Hawaii volcano is something like 5 km right?
__________________

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-06-2010, 08:52 AM
Helicoradian's Avatar
Helicoradian Helicoradian is offline
Nawmtu
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Washington
Posts: 1,215
Default

I'm pretty sure that Pandora's polar caps are covered by snow and ice. As for it snowing up in the Hallelujah Mountains, it might be possible but I don't really know.
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-06-2010, 03:35 PM
Davy Jones's Avatar
Davy Jones Davy Jones is offline
The Neytiriator
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 431
Default

For all we know, unobtanium might be warm, melting the snow
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-06-2010, 06:37 PM
Loverofnature's Avatar
Loverofnature Loverofnature is offline
Tsamsiyu
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Body: Denmark Spirit: Pandora
Posts: 712
Send a message via MSN to Loverofnature Send a message via Skype™ to Loverofnature
Default

yeah hence the waterfalls that come out of nowhere
__________________




"Free your Mind" - Morpheus
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-06-2010, 07:52 PM
Human No More's Avatar
Human No More Human No More is offline
Toruk Makto, Admin
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: In a datacentre
Posts: 11,726
Default

Ah, no, it's a superconductor

I'd guess not a high enough altitude combined with temperature on Pandora. Perhaps it snows on the very highest, just not any seen. The ones shown couldn't be more than a few kilometres at the very most.
__________________
...
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-07-2010, 02:14 AM
X.,.Pandora.,.X's Avatar
X.,.Pandora.,.X X.,.Pandora.,.X is offline
Tsulfätu
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,577
Default

... +1 vote for sequal to take place during the winter.... the bioluminesence would look sweet under 2-3 inches of snow...
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-07-2010, 02:57 AM
Migg3006's Avatar
Migg3006 Migg3006 is offline
Taronyu
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Québec Canada
Posts: 402
Send a message via MSN to Migg3006 Send a message via Skype™ to Migg3006
Default

Snow on hi mountain is not a question of altitude, it's more a question of the thickness of the atmosphere. More the atmosphere is thick more it will need to be hi to have snow.
But it also a question of greenhouse effect, more the atmosphere are able to keep the heat more hi you will need to go to have snow.
__________________
I plunge again and again, continuously, in an imaginary universe and wake up while realizing that this wonderful and exiting world will only exist in my head and heart.


Always believe in Pandora, Never be assimilate by this society!!
*̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ *̡͌l̡*
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-07-2010, 04:59 AM
Patrice Maire's Avatar
Patrice Maire Patrice Maire is offline
Taronyu
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 429
Default

Okay, time for the plant person to step in.
IT's been established that the area where the movie takes place is the equivalent of a tropical jungle. What we saw in other areas (the plains and the coast) the plant diversity is very wide.
The plants on top of the floating mountains is different than the plants growing on the planet itself. There are likely micro climates on each individual floating rock as well and due to their floating and rotating, the climate changes constantly as well.
The flora at Site 26 seems to bear out a different weather pattern than on the ground. Long grass, different plant varieties that seem to indicate possible colder weather tolerance.
So, we'll have to see what Cameron plans for us in the next movie and perhaps in the novel as well.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-07-2010, 07:10 AM
Sėltsan'awpo's Avatar
Sėltsan'awpo Sėltsan'awpo is offline
Numeyu
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Still Earth :|
Posts: 91
Default

Isn't there a lot of mist around the mountains? Maybe the atmosphere is thin and it's easier for the sunlight to go throught it (or it's thicker and it's harder for sunlight to leave) and it evaporates water before it turns into snow?

Lol, I really don't know xD Just my $0.02
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-08-2010, 09:18 AM
Ashen Key's Avatar
Ashen Key Ashen Key is offline
Ikran Makto
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 796
Send a message via AIM to Ashen Key
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrice Maire View Post
So, we'll have to see what Cameron plans for us in the next movie and perhaps in the novel as well.
*wry* Unfortunately, I role-play pre-canon Trudy in a multifandom game, and I can't really go 'sorry, guys, have to wait four years for the answer on that one!'

But you make an excellent point re: the plants being different at Site 26 than in the jungle - I hadn't noticed that before.
__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Visit our partner sites:

   



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:31 PM.

Based on the Planet Earth theme by Themes by Design


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
All images and clips of Avatar are the exclusive property of 20th Century Fox.